Marder III tank destroyer

[scottak]

 This vehicle should be in the game because it was an important German tank destroyer with 1,143 vehicles being produced from  1942 to 1944. It has a 3 inch ( 75 mm) PaK 40 anti tank gun mounted on the chassis of a Panzer 38(t). Power to weight ratio of 10.5 hp/ton, max. speed of 26 mph on road, armour of .4-2 inches, a crew of 4, and weighs 11.9 tons. It is powered by a Praga inline 6-cylinder gas, water-cooled, 7,754 cc, 125 hp engine.Dimensions are as follows: length: 192 in.(230 in. with barrel), width: 85 in., 98 in. height.

[B-17]

From a couple of books that are beside me, it says it only carried 27 (ish) rounds for the PaK40, which was still only 75mm... and .2 inches of armor? I'll be in my jeep

[scottak]

This vehicle should be in the game because it was an important German tank destroyer with 1,143 vehicles being produced from  1942 to 1944. It has a 3 inch ( 75 mm) PaK 40 anti tank gun mounted on the chassis of a Panzer 38(t). Power to weight ratio of 10.5 hp/ton, max. speed of 26 mph on road, armour of .4-2 inches, a crew of 4, and weighs 11.9 tons. It is powered by a Praga inline 6-cylinder gas, water-cooled, 7,754 cc, 125 hp engine.Dimensions are as follows: length: 192 in.(230 in. with barrel), width: 85 in., 98 in. height.

 yes but it can penetrate 5.2 in. at 1,650 ft/90 degrees with AP and with APCR  6.1in. at 1650ft/ 90 degrees. and my book says more around 36 rounds. and not .2, .4 - 2 inches.

[4Prop]

 yes but it can penetrate 5.2 in. at 1,650 ft/90 degrees with AP and with APCR  6.1in. at 1650ft/ 90 degrees. and my book says more around 36 rounds

my book says -1

[scottak]

my book says -1

come on it may be underprotected but it's gun can penetrate a tiger's armour from a ways away.

[4Prop]

come on it may be underprotected but it's gun can penetrate a tiger's armour from a ways away.

so can our T34/85 we already have

[scottak]

so can our T34/85 we already have

and a king tiger's? king tigers got around 5.4 in. of armour. and it said that it can go thru 6.1 inches with hvap

[4Prop]

and a king tiger's? king tigers got around 5,4 in. or armour. and it said that it ccan go thru 6.1 inches with hvap

yup. hit em in the front of the turret. I've done it many times.

[scottak]

yup. hit em in the front of the turret. I've done it many times.

how far away? i find this very hard to believe
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[Butcher]

Marder will not penetrate a Tiger, Panther or King Tiger from the front, It was a slap together tank destroyer for T34's and KV-1s.

[Tank-Ace]

and a king tiger's? king tigers got around 5.4 in. of armour. and it said that it can go thru 6.1 inches with hvap

Yeah, 6.1 inches of verticle armor at 300yds (thats VERY close range in AH). That only equates to 155mm or so. And thats with no slope at all. The King Tiger has 150mm of well sloped armor. At mere LOS thickness (less than effective thickness) the KT still has 233mm of armor on the Glacis plate.

The Panther's glacis plate has about 143mm effective thickness, and is pretty much impenetrable to the Pak 40 without APCR rounds.


Second, the StuG III would be a better choice.

[lyric1]

So ugly it's cool. 

[scottak]

Yeah, 6.1 inches of verticle armor at 300yds (thats VERY close range in AH). That only equates to 155mm or so. And thats with no slope at all. The King Tiger has 150mm of well sloped armor. At mere LOS thickness (less than effective thickness) the KT still has 233mm of armor on the Glacis plate.

The Panther's glacis plate has about 143mm effective thickness, and is pretty much impenetrable to the Pak 40 without APCR rounds.


Second, the StuG III would be a better choice.

fine we can get rid of the marder III. Jesus, I'm trying to get in some more good ideas for once and you guys keep disagreeing with them!

[Tank-Ace]

Ask for whats best to add at this point in time. I mean i could ask for a Do-17, but it would be just dumb for me to do so. The He-111 would be a better EW bomber, would give us more variants we could add, some of which would be semi-competative in LW arena.


So while the Marder III would be a good vehicle to add eventually, it wouldn't be a good vehicle to add now, as it would see little use, and would be better represented in its time period by a different vehicle.

[lyric1]

Stick to your guns Skotty don't let them tell you this.

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