Stricken P-51 lands with help from a legend: Bob Hoover

[flight17]

You can log whatever you want. It's your logbook and it's only ink on paper.

There's a difference in being the PIC and logging PIC. There's a reason companies will specify what your actual Command/Captain/P1/Real PIC time vs time logged as a sole manipulator of the controls.  Doing so without a type rating, which is a prerequisite for a turbojet powered airplane or aircraft in excess of 12,500lbs is a show stopper. If you want PIC time in an aircraft requiring a type rating, you need a type rating. If you're being told differently, you're being misled. I'm very much willing to be proven wrong on that if you'd care to offer rebuttal.

ya i deleted it before you posted after i asked the AOPA hotline...

I was told, at least i thought i was, that i could Log PIC time due to the fact that the type rated pilot was an instructor (dual received) and because the person flying right seat does not need to have the type rating to fly right seat, just the multi. So i will be logging SIC then.

[colmbo]

I was told, at least i thought i was, that i could Log PIC time due to the fact that the type rated pilot was an instructor (dual received) and because the person flying right seat does not need to have the type rating to fly right seat, just the multi. So i will be logging SIC then.

Unless you're legal to act as PIC you can't log PIC.  There are some cases where both pilots can log PIC time -- a rated pilot working on an instrument rating can log PIC for the time you are sole manipulator of the controls -- the CFII logs the entire flight as PIC.

Say you and a buddy go for a cross country and swap legs (both being rated in the airplane).  You can log PIC for the leg you fly, the non flying pilot doesn't log anything (SIC not required for the A/C).

[colmbo]

I'm willing to bet that the maneuvers Hoover suggested were more aggressive than that pilot would be accustomed to performing. Hitting that jammed lever arm of a landing gear with a bigger hammer so to speak.

Yep.  It was part of his airshow act with the Shrike.  He'd make a slow pass stomping rudder back and forth yawing the airplane almost sideways.


You know Hoover was shotdown during the war.  FW190 made a great deflection shot disabling his Spitfire.

[potsNpans]

Good story, thanks for the post.

[Golfer]

Yep.  It was part of his airshow act with the Shrike.  He'd make a slow pass stomping rudder back and forth yawing the airplane almost sideways.


You know Hoover was shotdown during the war.  FW190 made a great deflection shot disabling his Spitfire.

Read the book, met the man. Better in real life

Forever Flying, Hoovers autobiography is a very good read. So is Robin Olds biography for anyone who hasn't read them. No, you can't have my copies.

[Grayeagle]

I met Bob Hoover at the pit gate in Reno back in late '80's, when he was flyin Old Yeller as race marshall.
He signed my shirt for the askin (had done an ink drawing on it of a P-51D)

Still hangin in my closet.

Didn't come across as elitist at all.

One of the things I have noticed tho ..
... people who actually do know what they are doin more often than not are labeled 'elitist' by those who do not.
(also been told I have a big ego for the same reasons .. -shrug- ..not my problem

Just sayin (tm Pasha)

-GE aka Frank