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Offline ozrocker

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Black Diamond Flight Team
« on: March 10, 2012, 06:41:53 PM »
Fly with the Black Diamonds :rock


http://youtu.be/jIAqgVMZRIA

 I notice 1 is a Rook  :)

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Re: Black Diamond Flight Team
« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2012, 06:55:20 PM »
awesome
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Re: Black Diamond Flight Team
« Reply #2 on: March 10, 2012, 07:01:38 PM »
I suffered some pucker factor here in my leather chair! Nice!

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Re: Black Diamond Flight Team
« Reply #3 on: March 11, 2012, 12:50:45 AM »
Hmm they were the heavy metal flight team last year...
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Re: Black Diamond Flight Team
« Reply #4 on: March 11, 2012, 12:53:37 AM »
dang that is awesome.
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Re: Black Diamond Flight Team
« Reply #5 on: March 11, 2012, 01:24:49 AM »
What amazes me is the fact that you can now pick up an airworthy L-39 for less money then a late model Cessna 172.

What REALLY amazes me is that you can pick up a '80s L-39 for less money then a 70's Super Cub, hmmm.  380mph cruise for $90k, or 90mph cruise for $120K.  (I'm just bitter because I want a Super Cub, and while resale value for most single engine pistons have plummeted in recent years, Super Cubs still fetch a premium)

The problem with L-39s is affording to feed and maintain those turbofans.

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Re: Black Diamond Flight Team
« Reply #6 on: March 11, 2012, 01:30:32 AM »
I know a guy with a Fouga Magister who told me the operating cost was well north of 2k/hr.
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Re: Black Diamond Flight Team
« Reply #7 on: March 11, 2012, 01:35:12 AM »
Heck a marginally equipped skyhawk even with a mid-time engine will sell for more than most light twins. Super Cubs are working airplanes, why they fetch such a hefty price. Skyhawks are the same way - there will always be a market for them with flight schools and weekend warriors.
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Re: Black Diamond Flight Team
« Reply #9 on: March 11, 2012, 08:48:34 AM »
Yeah, that's another cool one. Saw it a few months ago.


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Re: Black Diamond Flight Team
« Reply #10 on: March 11, 2012, 11:33:34 AM »
Fly with the Black Diamonds :rock


http://youtu.be/jIAqgVMZRIA

 I notice 1 is a Rook  :)

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I know I'm not the only one that was yelling "VULCH! VULCH!" at the 1:08 mark!  :rofl
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Re: Black Diamond Flight Team
« Reply #11 on: March 11, 2012, 07:11:32 PM »
blimey!! that all happens so dang fast!!
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Re: Black Diamond Flight Team
« Reply #12 on: March 11, 2012, 07:56:26 PM »
What amazes me is the fact that you can now pick up an airworthy L-39 for less money then a late model Cessna 172.

What REALLY amazes me is that you can pick up a '80s L-39 for less money then a 70's Super Cub, hmmm.  380mph cruise for $90k, or 90mph cruise for $120K.  (I'm just bitter because I want a Super Cub, and while resale value for most single engine pistons have plummeted in recent years, Super Cubs still fetch a premium)

The problem with L-39s is affording to feed and maintain those turbofans.

Nail on the head in the last sentence.

You get what you pay for.  An older airframe, especially an older eastern bloc built airframe gets very costly really quick to keep and try and maintain.  While parts abound, costs are a rising and the only guys really operating these birds these days have deeeeeeeeeeeep wallets.  That means for the layman, they are nigh impossible to afford without group purchasing.  That is simply a recipe for disaster when it comes to high performance jets.

I had the chance to buy a very nice Fouga a few years back and I passed.  The reason, cost to operate, continually maintain, and the kicker we have not touched on until now, maintain.
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Re: Black Diamond Flight Team
« Reply #13 on: March 11, 2012, 07:57:57 PM »
It didn't happen to be N404DM did it? Painted black?
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Re: Black Diamond Flight Team
« Reply #14 on: March 11, 2012, 08:21:15 PM »
No, it is a bird that was in CA.  Knew the people that owned and operated it, was a gem, but again, reality is the cost per hour to operate.  As I understand, the Fouga is a bargain compared to the L-39. 
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