a standard distance from gunsight view limit for all fighters please

[Citabria]

large variation in how close a player can move their view towards the gunsight.  can this be standardized to a distance from the gunsight.


planes like the la5/7 and p40 series you cant even get within a foot or two of the sight while other planes you can have your virtual chin resting on it.



id like to be able to be closer to the gunsight in la5/7 and p40s and any others that have odd settings in this regard.

[MachFly]

You mean you want to be able to zoom in to the gunsight so it will be in full screen?

[Noir]

no, he wants to move his head forward into the gunsight, like an ophthalmology eye check )

[B-17]

Awesome, now we're sniping at 200+ mph at 5k

[Chilli]

no, he wants to move his head forward into the gunsight, like an ophthalmology eye check )

Why not for some, but yet for others?  I think this is what Fester is asking (while inserting his preference for less limitation).  Humurous analogy though  _"EDBCDBE" "Now cover the other eye and read the 3rd line"      "What 3rd line?"

[B-17]

Actually, thinking about it, I think if you zoomed in to the sight all the way, then moved forward all the way, and saved your head position, I think you could probably fill most of the screen with the gunsight

[Karnak]

Actually, thinking about it, I think if you zoomed in to the sight all the way, then moved forward all the way, and saved your head position, I think you could probably fill most of the screen with the gunsight

Yes?  That wouldn't make the target 300 yards away fill the sight though as you only moved your face a foot closer to it.  A foot might be 95% closer to the sight while it would only be 0.01% closer to the target.

[JunkyII]

Instead of bringing the LA and P40 up to where other planes can go it should be set back to where they already are.

Wouldn't the pilot be strapped in to the seat.....making it impossible to move too far forward?

[B-17]

Yes?  That wouldn't make the target 300 yards away fill the sight though as you only moved your face a foot closer to it.  A foot might be 95% closer to the sight while it would only be 0.01% closer to the target.

I know that, the OP was just asking if you could give the gunsights a generic distance in all the planes, to which I say no. The seat positions varied plane to plane.

[Karnak]

Instead of bringing the LA and P40 up to where other planes can go it should be set back to where they already are.

Wouldn't the pilot be strapped in to the seat.....making it impossible to move too far forward?

Shoulder straps were not worn that tight, otherwise it became too hard to look behind you.

[bustr]

If you average all gunsights used in WW2 fighters their common factor is a 100Mil ring projected on the reflector plate set 16.5-17 inches from the pilot's eye for the best angle of view. This will average a 2inch diameter projected ring. I checked a few fighters measuring a 100Mil ring from default head position, half zoom and full zoom. P51D, La7, Spit16 and P40N. P40N has an N-3 gunsight which the maximum ring was 70Mil.

100Mil ring.
Default = 5/8 inch diameter.
Half Zoom = 2 inch diameter.
Full zoom = 4 inch diamter.

70Mil ring.
Default = 1/2 inch diameter.
Half Zoom = 1 1/2 inch diameter.
Full Zoom = 2 3/4 inch diamter.

As for the default view and moving it. The main ring on the gunsight has been set to remain a fixed diameter no matter how far back or close you move the default head position. I don't know Hitechs reference distance 16.5, 17 or 18 inches. You can make the ring or aimpoints in your gunsight appere scaled larger or smaller on the reflector plate by moving the default position forwrard and back. But, the default distance between your eyeball and the ring will not change how ever far forward or back you arrow key the default PoV.

Your arrow forward motion for every fighter is limited to the vertical aft members of the windscreen assembly. In F3 mode the P40E/F/N has a very deep windscreen area with the gunsight forward into it. The P40C has a shallower windscreen structure allowing more travel forward to the reflector plate. The La7 has a shallow windscreen area and the gunsight support arm holds it towards the pilot.

I beleive you are describing the specific demension differences between fighter cockpit windscreen designs and structure relative to how gunsights are mounted to the pilots default head position.

[Rob52240]

It's better to just use zoom since moving your head forward does not change the relative size of the sight along with everything else.

[Arlo]

Alas, seats in various planes (even planes made by the same country) were not standardized to keep one's arse the same distance from thier respective gunsights.

[Shuffler]

None of the sites are visible to me since I close my eyes and grit my teeth when fighting.

[guncrasher]

I got a 9mm next to me in case somebody tries some shady stuff in the game.  you never know.


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