Author Topic: Puffy ack needs to go after 10 years of BS  (Read 4915 times)

Offline BigR

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Re: Puffy ack needs to go after 10 years of BS
« Reply #30 on: March 17, 2012, 01:27:56 PM »
My absolute biggest complaint about puffy ack is the distance that it can get you from. Just turning down the range of puffy to about half of what it is would go a helluva long way to fixing the problem. I hate getting nailed by puffy when I am not even trying to go near the CV or attack it in any sort of way.

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Re: Puffy ack needs to go after 10 years of BS
« Reply #31 on: March 17, 2012, 01:28:43 PM »
Has anyone from HTC ever posted in a puffyack thread? Just wondering-- I'd love to hear why they coded ack the way they did.

On a side note, when flying above a CV offline, underneath 3000 feet, I'm taking craploads of small ack, but there's STILL loads being fired at the planes.

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Re: Puffy ack needs to go after 10 years of BS
« Reply #32 on: March 17, 2012, 01:40:06 PM »
maybe reduce the range by half and double intensity and accuracy. I'd like to see an end to the 2,999 foot buff formations carpet bombing the CV's.

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Re: Puffy ack needs to go after 10 years of BS
« Reply #33 on: March 17, 2012, 02:13:19 PM »
Layers and timing is important.

When at very long range in real life the first few puffy acks would be a full click off and almost random. The longer you stayed on course the closer it would get. Stay on one path too long, damage.

At some range this begins to change. The ack is more intense and "first" shots are much closer. At some point, consider proximity rounds the ack is very likely going to damage the plane. This would likely go well below 3,000 feet alt, though you would need to be within 3.0 icon range?

And the timing...beyond icon range, climb to 3,001 feet and instant ack. Those rounds would need to travel at well over 10,000 mph to get there that quick. Not quite actual muzzle velocity, and again first shots are going to be off by a good margin.

Just some realism is all.

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Re: Puffy ack needs to go after 10 years of BS
« Reply #34 on: March 17, 2012, 03:13:48 PM »
Puffy ack only targets the closest player which creates openings for everyone else to attack. This is very unrealistic but I can live with it not targeting everyone in range.
Yup...never be the closest, never be the highest...that thought goes through my mind when I'm in a fight NEAR a cv (I never vocalize it..I'm not TOTALLY stupid...)....let some other poor slob be the AI target
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Re: Puffy ack needs to go after 10 years of BS
« Reply #35 on: March 17, 2012, 03:33:18 PM »
Yup...never be the closest, never be the highest...that thought goes through my mind when I'm in a fight NEAR a cv (I never vocalize it..I'm not TOTALLY stupid...)....let some other poor slob be the AI target

That's how I've always behaved around them too. If there isn't anybody between me and the CV I'm diving at 60 degrees away from it until I break Angels 3 or until someone else udecides to move closer to it.
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Re: Puffy ack needs to go after 10 years of BS
« Reply #36 on: March 17, 2012, 04:21:07 PM »
That's not a problem, it's a random hit. If it happened every time it would be a problem.

the distribution of puffy within its box may be random, but there is nothing random about the tracking - whatever you do the box is always centred exactly on your aircraft. its the precise realtime tracking which is the problem, and the reason why AH puffy is massively more capable than WWII systems. that an evading fighter ever gets hit is a problem.
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Re: Puffy ack needs to go after 10 years of BS
« Reply #37 on: March 17, 2012, 04:39:42 PM »
My opinion is that AH is a flight combat simulator, and the puffy ack is at the wrong end of realistic. I absolutly hate running into a CV as I know that my likelyhood of getting blasted is high, based on a random hit box. My expectations from a HTC product are higher, so I also agree that this should be updated please.
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Re: Puffy ack needs to go after 10 years of BS
« Reply #38 on: March 17, 2012, 04:47:43 PM »

When at very long range in real life the first few puffy acks would be a full click off and almost random.

What is your basis for this statement? In real life puffy ack sometimes hit fighters at 20k with the first shot. In AH it mostly misses but sometimes hits fighters with the first shot.


the distribution of puffy within its box may be random, but there is nothing random about the tracking - whatever you do the box is always centred exactly on your aircraft. its the precise realtime tracking which is the problem, and the reason why AH puffy is massively more capable than WWII systems. that an evading fighter ever gets hit is a problem.

Since the ack doesn't shoot the center of the box I don't see the problem. You want to never get hit while evading. That would be completely unrealistic.

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Re: Puffy ack needs to go after 10 years of BS
« Reply #39 on: March 17, 2012, 04:52:09 PM »
Of the thousands of puffy ack that I have had go off near the aircraft I've been flying and only the a dozen or legit damaging hits, I will take the odds when flying in to puffy ack.

The odds are in the favor of the player 10 fold.

I think this is a complaint by people not able to understand what the odds are.   
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Re: Puffy ack needs to go after 10 years of BS
« Reply #40 on: March 17, 2012, 04:56:43 PM »
Puffyack is a true pain.

Many-a-time the first sign of it being in the area is the immediate oiling of the engine.

Many-a-time while turning in evation 3 ping in a row end the flight.

It's the same for all of us, like our collective lack of mirrors, so HTC will pass it off as a "Design choise".
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Re: Puffy ack needs to go after 10 years of BS
« Reply #41 on: March 17, 2012, 04:57:36 PM »
Of the thousands of puffy ack that I have had go off near the aircraft I've been flying and only the a dozen or legit damaging hits, I will take the odds when flying in to puffy ack.

The odds are in the favor of the player 10 fold.

I think this is a complaint by people not able to understand what the odds are.   

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Re: Puffy ack needs to go after 10 years of BS
« Reply #42 on: March 17, 2012, 05:05:30 PM »
Easy fix, Dont fly in puffy ack.
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Re: Puffy ack needs to go after 10 years of BS
« Reply #43 on: March 17, 2012, 05:09:54 PM »
In soviet russia, puffy ack fly to you.

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Re: Puffy ack needs to go after 10 years of BS
« Reply #44 on: March 17, 2012, 05:15:29 PM »