Perk the buff wingmen planes.

[icepac]

I'm seeing a new trend of buff pilots who are only a slight bit above bomb and bailers in my opinon.

I'm sure most buff hunters have run into them.

I'm talking about the buff pilots who, when confronted with a con upping that might have a chance to catch them, decide to abandon the other two planes in the formation.

By doing this, they think they are making themselves a less attractive target to the fighter that climbs up 32,800 feet chasing after them and they are correct.

Most fighters who will up after high buffs dropping one bomb on every town center will usually quit the chase because the payoff has been purposely reduced to 1/3 by the pilot of the buffs.

I think the single bomber landing the mission after doing this should have his score reduced the same amount or be charged perks for the buffs that did not return.

Leave the single bombers unperked.

This would also reduce certain other bomber behavior that is contrary to the game's intent such as bombing and bailing and lancstuka sightings.

[Selino631]

thats not too bad of an idea. i hate it when i'll up a C.205 to intercept bombers at like 15-20,000ft and as soon as i get up there they all bail.


+1

[pembquist]

Bomb and bail is scurrilous behavior but what you are describing sounds like its just stupid behavior.  Single planes are less likely to get survive attack than a complete formation so cutting your firepower/lives by 2/3 in the hopes that the chance of less points will disuade pursuit just seems dumb.  If you required all drones to return to get a full score you'd p.o. a lot of bomber pilots who feel like returning with losses is completing the mission, in fact you might end up encouraging bailing as the logic would go "well I already lost 2/3 of my points might as well bail."

[shdo]

if the bombers are perk bombers you already pay for the drones when you up and if you don't land em you do not get the refund.

i have no clue how it effects your score/perks earned when you loose a drone or 2 on non-perked bombers.


shdo

[guncrasher]

there's no guarantee that you will kill 3 bombers when you climb to 32k.  but you are almost 100% to kill a single if you climb to that altitude.  if you go up there might as well go get the single one after all it's better than nothing.

and whoever loses the drones forget that they also count as 2 kills against him anyway.  perhaps some people dont understand the score thing.  or maybe they made a maneuver that made him/her lose the drones by accident.



semp

[Delirium]

By doing this, they think they are making themselves a less attractive target to the fighter that climbs up 32,800 feet chasing after them and they are correct.

Most fighters who will up after high buffs dropping one bomb on every town center will usually quit the chase because the payoff has been purposely reduced to 1/3 by the pilot of the buffs.

I don't understand... isn't a single bomber much easier to engage? How is that less attractive of a target?

Then again, I don't bother with bombers above 7k generally, if they want to fly at 30k they might as well fly offline imho.

[Wiley]

I don't understand... isn't a single bomber much easier to engage? How is that less attractive of a target?

Then again, I don't bother with bombers above 7k generally, if they want to fly at 30k they might as well fly offline imho.

3 kills = name in lights

1 kill = no name in lights

I assume is the thought process.  When I see them start pulling hard, I try to get in a spray on the drones if I'm able to get perks off them.

Edit:  There are very few playstyles that I consider bad form, but bomb and bail, and jaboing a base with the intent of dying so you can come back more quickly are two of them.  Unfortunately it's impossible to stop.

Wiley.

[icepac]

there's no guarantee that you will kill 3 bombers when you climb to 32k.  but you are almost 100% to kill a single if you climb to that altitude.  if you go up there might as well go get the single one after all it's better than nothing.

and whoever loses the drones forget that they also count as 2 kills against him anyway.  perhaps some people dont understand the score thing.  or maybe they made a maneuver that made him/her lose the drones by accident.



semp

I believe losing two of 3 buffs has zero negative effect on score points and that a buff losing his wingmen suffers no "kill" losses when he does it far enough away from any pursuer.

What I am seeing is purposeful discarding of them only after dropping all of thier ord. and the guys who do this are only concerned with getting one plane home to collect the milk run points.

The other issue this could help relieve is the guys who up heavy buffs for the express purpose of bombing a spawn a couple of miles away from 1100 feet over and over with zero intent of actually making it home.

It doesn't have to be much of a perk......just enough that it might make people feel some sort of loss when they do it or maybe consider trying to get all 3 buffs home.

[EagleDNY]

As a dedicated buff pilot myself, I think you would have to be retarded to cut your defensive firepower by 2/3.  Of course you won't find me up at 32K trying to farm bomber perks either...

[guncrasher]

I believe losing two of 3 buffs has zero negative effect on score points and that a buff losing his wingmen suffers no "kill" losses when he does it far enough away from any pursuer.

What I am seeing is purposeful discarding of them only after dropping all of thier ord. and the guys who do this are only concerned with getting one plane home to collect the milk run points.

The other issue this could help relieve is the guys who up heavy buffs for the express purpose of bombing a spawn a couple of miles away from 1100 feet over and over with zero intent of actually making it home.

It doesn't have to be much of a perk......just enough that it might make people feel some sort of loss when they do it or maybe consider trying to get all 3 buffs home.

no you up 3 planes and you dont land them all, then whichever you dont land count as basically a death for scoring purposes.

you do know that ditch/auger/deaths all count the same towards score right?  same as in a fighter.  a ditch/capture is considered a death as far as score goes.

semp

[Mitsu.]

Gimme 4 box formation of buffs with 3 drones.

[Beefcake]

You guys really worry about other peoples score WAY to much.

[Volron]

You guys really worry about other peoples score WAY to much.

 

[BERN1]

maybe the pilots name should be broadcast. pilot x just lost 2 drones,or pilotx just bailed out of a perfectly good airplane.
i bomb at hi alt alot,I have also had bombers bomb and bail on me.the sad part is that the guy doing it is probably proud of himself.

[flatiron1]

I think that giving some score/perk credit for killing fighters in buffs would be a incentive not to bail. By the way i don't bail if being chased.