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Offline lyric1

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I-16 tail asymmetry?
« on: March 21, 2012, 06:09:49 AM »
I noticed on a web site a couple of photos that showed how the tail of the I-16 is slightly askew to counteract the torque of the engine.





Our AHII I-16 has not the same type of arrangement.








Is ours incorrect or just a different model that is straight?

Is the AHII I-16 flight model correct to the shape of the bent tail if the bent tail is correct?

Just a few questions that popped to mind.

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Re: I-16 tail asymmetry?
« Reply #1 on: March 21, 2012, 12:38:06 PM »
good question...  :headscratch:
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Re: I-16 tail asymmetry?
« Reply #2 on: March 21, 2012, 01:20:25 PM »
Well it was made in the Soviet Union.

Will Hayden on Sons Of Guns says he's put together a lot of Russian gun kits, and he's never seen 2 that are completely identical.
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Re: I-16 tail asymmetry?
« Reply #3 on: March 21, 2012, 02:22:40 PM »
Quote from: Rob52240 on March 21, 2012, 01:20:25 PM

Will Hayden on Sons Of Guns says he's put together a lot of Russian gun kits, and he's never seen 2 that are completely identical.


American components... Russian components...
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Re: I-16 tail asymmetry?
« Reply #4 on: March 21, 2012, 02:49:27 PM »
All made in Taiwan...
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Re: I-16 tail asymmetry?
« Reply #5 on: March 21, 2012, 04:52:03 PM »
It's common for aircraft to have built in asymmetry to compensate for flight conditions.  Take a close look at a Cessna 172 and you can see the dorsal slightly offset to counter slipstream effect.  Normally the "tweak" is tuned for a cruise power/speed condition -- outside of that and you'll need trim to compensate.

As for in game....any offset you could see in the game would just be an artwork thing to appease the viewer.  Our cartoon airplanes do not actually fly thru air, the aerodynamics is handled by code.  The artwork could show an elephant but it would still fly the same.
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Re: I-16 tail asymmetry?
« Reply #6 on: March 21, 2012, 05:15:58 PM »
Quote from: Tec on March 21, 2012, 02:49:27 PM
All made in Taiwan...

hey man, that was last year... the child labor there is too expensive now.... Vietnam & Laos here we come!
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Re: I-16 tail asymmetry?
« Reply #7 on: March 21, 2012, 05:16:22 PM »
Quote from: colmbo on March 21, 2012, 04:52:03 PM
The artwork could show an elephant but it would still fly the same.

Or a shark with a frikkin laser on its head.
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Re: I-16 tail asymmetry?
« Reply #8 on: March 21, 2012, 05:37:46 PM »
Quote from: colmbo on March 21, 2012, 04:52:03 PM
The artwork could show an elephant but it would still fly the same.

In theory you're correct but come on, if the artwork showed an elephant, Hitech would calculate the ear area, musculature, average conditioning, total mass, drag, tail and trunk moments, methane ejection etc and it would fly exactly like an elephant within the constraints of our hardware.  :neener:
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Re: I-16 tail asymmetry?
« Reply #9 on: March 21, 2012, 06:13:44 PM »
Quote from: FLS on March 21, 2012, 05:37:46 PM
In theory you're correct but come on, if the artwork showed an elephant, Hitech would calculate the ear area, musculature, average conditioning, total mass, drag, tail and trunk moments, methane ejection etc and it would fly exactly like an elephant within the constraints of our hardware.  :neener:

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Re: I-16 tail asymmetry?
« Reply #10 on: March 21, 2012, 07:08:48 PM »
I stuck a piece of gum to the side of my plane when I was done chewing it and it didn't fly right for the rest of the sortie.
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Re: I-16 tail asymmetry?
« Reply #11 on: March 21, 2012, 07:31:27 PM »
Quote from: GNucks on March 21, 2012, 07:08:48 PM
I stuck a piece of gum to the side of my plane when I was done chewing it and it didn't fly right for the rest of the sortie.



Yep it happens.  :D

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Re: I-16 tail asymmetry?
« Reply #12 on: March 21, 2012, 08:57:46 PM »
Amelia Earhart and a Pitcairn autogiro?

Funny how I hadn't noticed that feature in the I-16 and I've looked at that thing many times and walked past it many times more. :o As colmbo said there are many aircraft with similar design features. For example Fokker D.VII has its horizontal stab slightly tilted when looking from above and Macchis had their right wing slightly shorter than the left.

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Re: I-16 tail asymmetry?
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Re: I-16 tail asymmetry?
« Reply #14 on: March 21, 2012, 09:15:01 PM »
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