We need a british Tank

[SmokinLoon]

The best option is the Cromwell if the late war Ammo in the 6lber is effective. I read the 6lber even with the mid war ammo could kill a tiger at close range through the frontal armour. I don't think the 75mm could do that at any range.

32 Mph with a low perk and with an effective ap round would be a good addition mayne even 40MPH if we had the unfgoverned engine. 

At 1000 yards the 6 Pdr APDS Shot Mk.I (Armor Piercing Discarding Sabot) could defeat 110mm of 30° armor.  So, it would have a fighting chance but it would have to use its speed to the utmost because it doesn't have the armor to slug it out with anything.  The Cromwell's armor was on par with the Sherman and Panzer IV.  With the 6Pdr and the LW high velocity AP rounds, it might just add in something we do not currently have: a fast (tank), medium armor, fast firing (20 shots a minute), good AP ability under 1000 yards, average AP ability under 1600, and worthless AP beyond 2000 yards.  Oh, and a poor HE round (similar to US M4/76mm).

[Yarbles]

At 1000 yards the 6 Pdr APDS Shot Mk.I (Armor Piercing Discarding Sabot) could defeat 110mm of 30° armor.  So, it would have a fighting chance but it would have to use its speed to the utmost because it doesn't have the armor to slug it out with anything.  The Cromwell's armor was on par with the Sherman and Panzer IV.  With the 6Pdr and the LW high velocity AP rounds, it might just add in something we do not currently have: a fast (tank), medium armor, fast firing (20 shots a minute), good AP ability under 1000 yards, average AP ability under 1600, and worthless AP beyond 2000 yards.  Oh, and a poor HE round (similar to US M4/76mm).

Sounds good as a low or unperked tank especially 20 rounds per minute 

[coombz]

why does it matter what model of tank is used when the majority of AH ground warfare consists of spawn camping?  

what a waste of time...I personally would prefer HTC to put their time and effort into making the gameplay more interesting (a change to work around the spawn camping rubbish would be a nice start), fixing the bugs introduced in recent patches, and adding some better maps

[Yarbles]

why does it matter what model of tank is used when the majority of AH ground warfare consists of spawn camping?  

what a waste of time...I personally would prefer HTC to put their time and effort into making the gameplay more interesting (a change to work around the spawn camping rubbish would be a nice start), fixing the bugs introduced in recent patches, and adding some better maps

Since you don't participate in the ground war why are you trolling my thread ?

The ground war would be improved by shortening the distances involved. Most people play for the air war and the ground war is an added and valuable bonus. If you have along drive as opposed to a long flight you cant just go off and make a cup of tea leaving your gv on auto as it will crash into a tree for example or roll.

[coombz]

Since you don't participate in the ground war why are you trolling my thread ?

Maybe I would participate in the ground war if it wasn't so laughably awful

This is 2012 and it's a pay-to-play game    Playing Combat on my Atari 2600 is 10x more fun than the GV fights in AH currently

[Yarbles]

Maybe I would participate in the ground war if it wasn't so laughably awful

This is 2012 and it's a pay-to-play game    Playing Combat on my Atari 2600 is 10x more fun the GV fights in AH currently

I dont know about that but allot of people do play it in ah and allot of development has gone into it recently. Comparing a console game against a small company like HTC is a bit unfair. What HTC provide is an amazing flight model which so far as in during the last 5 and a half years I have found to be nearly faultless. We can talk of what is available elsewhere but the realisty is that seems to be unique. I find the ground war similar in its fidelity to the relative mertis of the vehicles involved and how they perform.  

[coombz]

heheh

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3m86ftny1uY

[Yarbles]

heheh

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3m86ftny1uY

Thanks for you usefull contribution I am sure you have given everyone allot to think about  

 

I am actually quite excited at the idea of High Teck adding the Cromwell with the 6lb gun after smokin loons contribution  

"The ROQF 75 mm was chiefly used on the Churchill and Cromwell tanks. The weapon was used in Italy and Normandy Invasion (and possibly in Burma against the Japanese[citation needed]) until the end of the war. While the 75 mm was a conversion from the 6 pounder, some units retained a number of 6 pounder gunned tanks, due to its superior anti tank firepower over the 75 mm, especially as the 6 pounder could use the even more effective APCR and APDS rounds."

British tank guns of the Second World War
 
6 pdr AP shot 3,000 Feet Per Second

75 mm 14.9 Lb 2,050 Feet Per Second

The 6lber version of the Cromwell makes it a more effective anti tank tank than the sherman 75mm and this could also be applied to the Crusader with late war ammunition for its 6lber.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crusader_tank
 

[Rob52240]

+1 Comet

[NZTyphoon]

The Comet used a 77mm OQF (Ordnance Quick Firing) Mk II which was a shortened 17 pdr designed to fit the turret, and it used exactly the same types of shells as the 17 pdr; Muzzle Velocity 17 lb 2,600 fps armour penetration 109mm at 500 yds/30º (shell type not specified)

The 17 pdr had a mv of 2,900 fps, 120mm armour at 500 yds/30º; with 8.15 lb APDS (Armour Piercing Discarding Sabot) mv 3,950 fps 186mm armour.

*data from http://www.amazon.com/British-American-Tanks-World-War/dp/0304355291 203-204

[Yarbles]

The Comet used a 77mm OQF (Ordnance Quick Firing) Mk II which was a shortened 17 pdr designed to fit the turret, and it used exactly the same types of shells as the 17 pdr; Muzzle Velocity 17 lb 2,600 fps armour penetration 109mm at 500 yds/30º (shell type not specified)

The 17 pdr had a mv of 2,900 fps, 120mm armour at 500 yds/30º; with 8.15 lb APDS (Armour Piercing Discarding Sabot) mv 3,950 fps 186mm armour.

*data from http://www.amazon.com/British-American-Tanks-World-War/dp/0304355291 203-204

The comet would be nice but the perk price would be similar to the panzer I imagine. I would prefer the the Cromwell with the 6lb gun and late war ammo and the Crusader as a hing eny possibility. Of course all 23 would be nice and throw in the churchill with thicker frontal armour than the tiger and the 6lber for good measure.

The USA currently has 4 armoured fighting vehicles while the UK only has one hybrid. A cromwell with the 6lber would be totally british     

[LCADolby]

Panther right?

The comet would be nice but the perk price would be similar to the panzer I imagine

[Yarbles]

Panther right?

Yep 

[Rob52240]

After we get the comet we should start bugging hitech for Katyusha rockets.

[SmokinLoon]

After we get the comet we should start bugging hitech for Katyusha rockets.

Evidently you have not noticed how ineffective the 28cm Wurfkorper rockets are from the SdKfz 251???  Actually, they are highly effective at hammering a town, but they are very difficult to employ.  A Soviet truck with the Katyusha rockets would probably be even less effective.