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Offline Rob52240

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Re: We need a british Tank
« Reply #30 on: March 29, 2012, 04:43:30 PM »
I thought those trucks would have more than 6 rockets.

2xSdKfz 251's are the absolute fastest way to drop a hanger.  Those rockets are B.A. but kinda tough to aim.

My thinking was going off the assumption that a truck would be faster than a halftrack and haul more rockets.  Nevermind though as it's a russian truck and who knows what they considered fast enough during the war years.
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Re: We need a british Tank
« Reply #31 on: March 29, 2012, 05:43:42 PM »
Maybe I would participate in the ground war if it wasn't so laughably awful

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coombz half the tank battles in the MA i am in consist of attacks of defense of a base away from a spawn... unless it involves the bish at V135...
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Re: We need a british Tank
« Reply #32 on: March 31, 2012, 07:40:23 AM »
The Matilda II would be nice to have. True it would not dominate the feild but it would be unique.
Few facts:

Only british tank to server the length of the war.

It had very good armor for a 1938 tank,

Hull Front, Upper 45-782, 47@67°       
Hull Front, Lower 78@0°       
Hull Sides, Upper 65-702, 70@30°       
Hull Sides, Lower 40@0° + 25@0° (side skirting)       
Hull Rear 55@25°, 552       
Hull Top 20@90°, 202       
Hull Bottom 13-20@90°, 13-202       
Turret Front 75@11°, 752       
Turret Sides 75@0°, 752       
Turret Rear 75@0°, 752       
Turret Top 20@90°, 202 


Its gun is a little on the weak side, but would be a danger to most most non-perk tanks under 1.5k

2 pdr (40 mm) Mk IX or Mk X
Distance to target (yards):    500     1000     1500      2000
AP penertation (inch)at 30o: 2.28      2.05     1.81      1.57

and its a little on the slow side. 15mph is top speed.





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Re: We need a british Tank
« Reply #33 on: March 31, 2012, 09:52:58 AM »
I thought those trucks would have more than 6 rockets.

2xSdKfz 251's are the absolute fastest way to drop a hanger.  Those rockets are B.A. but kinda tough to aim.

My thinking was going off the assumption that a truck would be faster than a halftrack and haul more rockets.  Nevermind though as it's a russian truck and who knows what they considered fast enough during the war years.


I doubt HTC would model in supplies for the Katyusha launchers, they'd be dead in the water after firing their 16 rounds.  No MG's, no supplies, and no armor at all.

The Katyusha rockets had 40lbs of explosives per rocket, the German 28cm Wurfkorper had 99lbs.  The Katyusha rockets had a range of 8500 yards, the 28cm rockets had a range of 2000 yards.  Everyone knows how difficult it is to aim and use the Wurfkoper rockets as it is, try using much weaker rockets are an even greater range.

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Re: We need a british Tank
« Reply #34 on: March 31, 2012, 05:09:48 PM »









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Re: We need a british Tank
« Reply #35 on: April 01, 2012, 03:01:20 AM »
hey butcher that second pic down is from the D-DAY museum in Southsea. 

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Re: We need a british Tank
« Reply #36 on: April 01, 2012, 07:58:20 AM »
The Churchill and Matilda would be decent tanks for their time frame with exception to one major factor: the top speed of the two tanks is 15mph.  I don't know about anyone else but to me it already takes "forever" to get one point A to point B in a typical 25 mph Panzer/Sherman/Tiger/Panther, etc.  While the Churchill has got the armor to withstand some punishment I just dont see it competing thanks to the speed and 6 Pdr or 75mm main gun.  The Cromwell would at least have some speed to make a run for the flank.
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Re: We need a british Tank
« Reply #37 on: April 02, 2012, 05:56:09 AM »
The Churchill and Matilda would be decent tanks for their time frame with exception to one major factor: the top speed of the two tanks is 15mph.  I don't know about anyone else but to me it already takes "forever" to get one point A to point B in a typical 25 mph Panzer/Sherman/Tiger/Panther, etc.  While the Churchill has got the armor to withstand some punishment I just dont see it competing thanks to the speed and 6 Pdr or 75mm main gun.  The Cromwell would at least have some speed to make a run for the flank.

Indeed but the churchill might be good in a defensive cpacity un perked and with the thickest frontal armour in the game.

Look at the thickness of that fron hatch  :aok 
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Re: We need a british Tank
« Reply #38 on: April 02, 2012, 12:25:05 PM »
Love the Churchill. Has a wooden drinks cabinet you know, and a cigar humidor  :old:
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Re: We need a british Tank
« Reply #39 on: April 02, 2012, 10:54:19 PM »
Indeed but the churchill might be good in a defensive cpacity un perked and with the thickest frontal armour in the game.

Look at the thickness of that fron hatch  :aok 

I know I wouldn't up a Churchill for anything.  A: the main gun is good for HE purposes first and foremost because its AP ability is rather lacking. B: It is slower than a 7 year itch.  Yeah, it would be able to shrug off a few rounds but eventually it is a sitting duck. 
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Re: We need a british Tank
« Reply #40 on: April 03, 2012, 07:59:28 AM »
Love the Churchill. Has a wooden drinks cabinet you know, and a cigar humidor  :old:

 :lol

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Re: We need a british Tank
« Reply #41 on: April 05, 2012, 02:29:54 PM »
:lol



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Re: We need a british Tank
« Reply #42 on: April 06, 2012, 06:23:52 PM »
I would drive the churchill if they made it the crodile variant.

But the Cromwell would do nicely.

Or the whippy little Wasp Carrier