Your thoughts on Trayvon/Zimmerman

[Shamus]

Zimmerman should have stayed in the car like he was told to and this whole thing would have been moot.

shamus

[rogwar]

My thoughts?

Let the law handle it.

[coombz]

Zimmerman should have stayed in the car like he was told to and this whole thing would have been moot.

shamus

Agreed, dude is going to jail

He put himself in danger, instigating a confrontation after the 911 dispatcher told him to stay put

Good luck claiming self defense after you follow a guy with the intent to harrass him

Also, the eye witness reports of Zimmerman having his head slammed on the concrete are almist certainly bogus...head wounds bleed like crazy, even if it's just a minor cut to the scalp...there was no evidence of Zimmerman's blood being everywhere and he received no.medical attention

[Shuffler]

I do not travel through gated communities at night wearing a hooded sweatshirt with the hood up, even if I was a resident of said community.

I haven't been shot, yet.

Seems to have worked for me.  

You know that this thread will only turn into a pissing contest that will get locked...

I'm hoping for a decent discussion. I know it's a long shot but hoping.

[clerick]

I don't know any facts, mainly because we aren't geting them.

What I do know is that this tragedy is being used by so many for personalor political gain. The million dollar bounty on Zimmerman is disgusting and how it isn't getting more condemnation is mind boggleing. I recently read that mom is trying to score by copyrighting her sons name... These people should be ashamed of themselves.

[Shuffler]

I'm going to wait for all the facts to come out before I form an opinion but I'm always weary of the armed, self appointed busy body who calls the police all the time to report suspicious people.  

Zimmerman was on the neighborhood watch team. Nothing stated so far said he calls the law all the time.

I'm also having trouble getting past the fact that law enforcement told him not to confront the kid in the hoodie.

Law enforcement did not tell him to not confront martin, who was 17. The 911 operator stated that and it is not required that you follow their direction.

[Shuffler]

Why do you assume he suckerpunched Zimmerman??

My brain assumes Zimmerman at some point put his hands on Trayvon and got a fist for a reaction.

The police report that was passed on to the FBI stated the kid came back to zimmerman as he was going back to his vehicle. Martin punched him one time and knocked him down. He then jumped on top of him and started beating zimmerman's head on the ground. Zimmerman was screaming for help.

That is what has been leaked and confirmed by the local police there in Florida.

It really is a screw up mess.

[Shuffler]

Also, the eye witness reports of Zimmerman having his head slammed on the concrete are almist certainly bogus...head wounds bleed like crazy, even if it's just a minor cut to the scalp...there was no evidence of Zimmerman's blood being everywhere and he received no.medical attention

Police report says the back of Zimmerman's head was bloody. Zimmerman was treated at the hospital.... he also had a broken nose.

[FLOTSOM]

well out of all of this, the funniest thing is the bp bounty.....wonder if the rocket scientist in that camp even realized before spouting off at the mouth that they have just now made their entire organization open targets for anti-terrorist police organizations? they have just given all the probable cause needed in any federal court to support warrants to search and seize any and all materials regarding the organization and any and all weapons held by any of its members. if something does happen to zimmerman then the leaders of the bp will be charged with capital murder and a multitude of other federal felonies......

[katanaso]

Why do you assume he suckerpunched Zimmerman??

My brain assumes Zimmerman at some point put his hands on Trayvon and got a fist for a reaction.

Witnesses and his report to the police stated that Treyon hit him from behind.

From the police report:
"While I was in such close contact with Zimmerman, I could observe that his back appeared to be wet and was covered in grass, as if he had been laying on his back on the ground. Zimmerman was also bleeding from the nose and back of his head."

[jeep00]

My only opinion on any of this is this case is tragic and it never had to happen. Both parties could have approached it differently, no matter what happend. And now one more young child is dead, and one more person has caused himself immense internal pain, and two more families have lost those loved ones in different ways.

The only ones who will be able to properly call this case will be in court where hopefully true justice will prevail over mob mentality, if indeed the evidence even causes the case to GET to court.
Or, we can have a travesty of a case like the Casey Anthony thing where they decide to prosecute on the most impossible of charges and then cause a freakout across the nation when they lose the case because of it.

Bob

[ink]

Better to be judged by twelve than carryed by six.......

depends on the situation.

[Bodhi]

Zimmerman should have stayed in the car like he was told to and this whole thing would have been moot.

shamus

He was not told to stay in the car in the transcript I read.  Rather, it was stated that he was not required to follow Martin.  Further, supposedly an eye witness puts Zimmerman walking back to his car when he was attacked.  Who knows the truth is beyond me.

Again and not directed at you Shamus, I am reserving judgement on the whole thing until the facts are heard.  There is simply too much spin and opinions floating around to make an educated decision. 

[katanaso]

It was "OK, we don't need you to do that."  (In reference to Zimmerman stating he was following Treyvon)

It's a really screwed up mess.

[Babalonian]

It's a really screwed up mess.

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If anyone teaches their kids ONE thing out of this fiasco, please let it be that there's two sides to every story, and then there's the truth.