Your thoughts on Trayvon/Zimmerman

[Delirium]

I speculate that Martin figured Zimmerman was going to call 911, and decided to preempt that.

Again, after the 911 call, no one watching the news knows what happened and to speculate about guilt or innocence is useless.

[Guppy35]

Clearly I need to take my left wing, liberal biased ,gun hating elitist preconceptions out of this thread

[kilo2]

Clearly.

My opinion is the only opinion that is valid!

[clerick]

Clearly, no one here has any first hand information and biases are starting to show. I suggest you all stick to what you know, which is next to nothing. So, lets make this thread easier to read and discuss nothing.

The only thing about this case that I know is how some specific people have reacted to it, and I find it disgusting that very few are expressin any outrage over the 1 Million dollar bounty placed on Zimmermans head, or Spike Lee Tweeting an address he thought Zimmerman was at, forcing an innocent couple to flee their home because of the mob that appeared. Who are the thugs here?

I'm sorry Trayvon died, as I'm sorry when anyone dies. Beyond that, I don't give a damn. There is nothing that makes this kid any more or less special than the thousands of others that die tragically every day, and we aren't hearing about them.

[AAJagerX]

Yikes...  I shouldn't have read ANY of this thread, much less most of it...  Jumping the gun on both sides.  Settle down folks. 

[Shuffler]

yeah it sure looks like it  

http://abcnews.go.com/US/video/george-zimmerman-police-surveillance-16024475

doesn't look at all like he had recently been battered to me *shrug*

The officer was looking at the back of his head. You can't tell much of anything from that video. How should someone who went through what he went through look from that far away?

[Shuffler]

This.


Zimmerman was the adult.  He didn't act like one.  The kid was going where he was supposed to go and had a right to be in that gated community as well.  The second Zimmerman ignored the 911 dispatcher's direction to not follow the kid, he set the wheels in motion.  That he's carrying a gun in his gated community makes no sense either.  Screams of wannabe cop.

I'm a bit curious when the 17 year old kid became less then a 'model citizen."  These comments are based on what?  That he got suspended for pot residue in a plastic bag?  If that's it, then this thread is full of less then model citizens.  I smoked pot at 17 at school a couple times.  And I don't do any of that kind of stuff and would have been considered squeaky clean at 17.  Since when did that make a kid more then a kid?

Real simple.  Zimmerman calls the cops, lets them do their job, and the story is never a story.  The adult blew it.

My youngest wears hoodies all the time.  I do often as well.  Are folks suggesting my little guy will have to give them up for fear of looking suspicious when he gets older?

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I carry at all times. I'm not a wannabe cop.

The 17 year old was caught doing grafitti on lockers in school. At that time they also found a watch and several pieces of womens jewelery in his backpack along with a screwdriver which they called a burglar tool. This being security at a probably less than optimum school. The 17 year old said they were not his and belonged to a friend which is refused to identify. They were photographed and turned over to the police. This among other things he did. Both individuals in this case were not squeaky clean.

I doubt the neighborhood watch was developed for no reason. They have had their share or more of crime. He saw someone suspicious and reported it. When the 17 year old (who no one at the time knew how old he was) approached the vehicle then turned away heading towards a back gate, Zimmerman seems to have thought he was going to get out before cops could respond and confirm the guy good or bad. You never know how long before the police show up. I feel that Zimmerman got excited. Right or wrong it is part of human nature.

Some folks wear hoodies where it covers their face. It also seems to be a favorite of folks committing crimes for that very reason. It does not mean that anyone wearing a hoodie is a criminal but if I don't know you and your in my area... and I can't see your face.... You will get more of my attention.

[Shuffler]

His nose looks unbroken on the police surveillance video and there are zero marks on his head or face

Have you ever had a broken nose. I have..... it may hurt but it does not mean you can see it is broken from a video that distance away. You are questioning things that are known.

[phatzo]

Have you ever had a broken nose. I have..... it may hurt but it does not mean you can see it is broken from a video that distance away. You are questioning things that are known.

yep 100% correct, other than when the black eyes set in the next day.

[VonMessa]

yep 100% correct, other than when the black eyes set in the next day.

You beat me to it.

[uptown]

I don't believe he should of shot the boy. If the kid was up to no good, then a good pistol whipping would have been better if a fight couldn't have been avoided. I believe it's just wrong to shoot a kid no matter what he did. I couldn't live with the guilt of that. 

What ticks me off about this whole case is that fact that it makes the national news. If the roles were reversed the media wouldn't have even covered it. And that's a fact. Recently in Kansas City, 2 black teens followed a 13 year old white boy home and threw gas on him and set him on fire. Where's the news coverage on that? Where's Al Sharpton?

[Shamus]

I don't believe he should of shot the boy. If the kid was up to no good, then a good pistol whipping would have been better if a fight couldn't have been avoided. I believe it's just wrong to shoot a kid no matter what he did. I couldn't live with the guilt of that. 

What ticks me off about this whole case is that fact that it makes the national news. If the roles were reversed the media wouldn't have even covered it. And that's a fact. Recently in Kansas City, 2 black teens followed a 13 year old white boy home and threw gas on him and set him on fire. Where's the news coverage on that? Where's Al Sharpton?

Did they identify the 2 black teens, interview them and decline to arrest and charge them, if so I agree with you, a travesty.

shamus

[Shuffler]

I don't believe he should of shot the boy. If the kid was up to no good, then a good pistol whipping would have been better if a fight couldn't have been avoided. I believe it's just wrong to shoot a kid no matter what he did. I couldn't live with the guilt of that. 

What ticks me off about this whole case is that fact that it makes the national news. If the roles were reversed the media wouldn't have even covered it. And that's a fact. Recently in Kansas City, 2 black teens followed a 13 year old white boy home and threw gas on him and set him on fire. Where's the news coverage on that? Where's Al Sharpton?

What boy.... no one knew how old he was till after the fact. If you get laid out from a single punch and you pull a pistol out while on your back and having your head banged on the concrete you can try to pistol whip someone... better hope that pistol is not used on you.

[Skuzzy]

This thread has no where to go but downhill.