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Offline TequilaChaser

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Re: ACM vs. SA
« Reply #45 on: March 31, 2012, 12:42:04 AM »
I am a strong believer in making SA ( Situational Awareness ) one's absolute top priority, and for them to constantly practice their SA technique ( using Good SA habits/practices )

and note..... noone ever "masters"  SA ( Situational Awareness ).......  SA is a never ending practice of habit.....

then , my next major question would be, why did everyone who has posted so far, not give any consideration to BFM ( also include gunnery skill with this ,too ) , being more important than ACM


in the past, I had always put SA at the top....... then would continously give repeating lil refresher courses on SA,  through the stages of teaching aircraft control, and BFM

I consider E-Management a part of SA

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Re: ACM vs. SA
« Reply #46 on: March 31, 2012, 09:44:45 AM »
What is BFM sir?
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Re: ACM vs. SA
« Reply #47 on: March 31, 2012, 10:00:12 AM »
What is BFM sir?

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Re: ACM vs. SA
« Reply #48 on: March 31, 2012, 10:02:50 AM »
SA and energy management are integral parts of BFM (basic fighter maneuvers) and how to employ it.  Google BFM.  There are numerous "how to" references available.
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Re: ACM vs. SA
« Reply #49 on: March 31, 2012, 10:09:23 AM »
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Re: ACM vs. SA
« Reply #50 on: March 31, 2012, 11:18:12 AM »
SA keeps you alive:

long enough to get kills using ACM, survival being secondary, hence allowing SA to be overwhelmed

or

to avoid dying, kills being secondary, hence less need for ACM.


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Re: ACM vs. SA
« Reply #51 on: March 31, 2012, 11:20:45 AM »
SA keeps you alive:

long enough to get kills using ACM, survival being secondary, hence allowing SA to be overwhelmed

or

to avoid dying, kills being secondary, hence less need for ACM.


We're all a mix of the above. It's the peter principle at work, "...rise to one's level of incompetence"  :noid

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Re: ACM vs. SA
« Reply #52 on: March 31, 2012, 11:41:12 AM »
all i will say. SA lets you know your odds and lets you stay up. but once that first fight starts ACM is equal to SA by every single molecule. without both you cannot win/kill your enemy
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Re: ACM vs. SA
« Reply #53 on: March 31, 2012, 11:44:50 AM »
What is BFM sir?

Basic Fighter Maneuvers

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Re: ACM vs. SA
« Reply #54 on: March 31, 2012, 12:03:49 PM »
Gentle men and lady,

What are your thought on Air Combat Maneuvers (ACM) vs. Situational Awareness (SA)?  Pretending that they two diff thing in this context please.

I find SA MUCH more important than ACM.  Knowing who is where, at what altitudes and relative speed more value than tricky-dicky plane man new vers.  Further more...if I get vulched, ho'd or killed in any way I find 95% reason was letting self be made into a fire solution for sum one.  So I just salute them as they earn the kill (vulch, ho etc.).  I let them get fire solution on me so they earn salute seem truth!

Hope I make English well.  I say SA more important than ACM by far!

What you think? What you experience?  Please share.

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In real life SA, i've read over 80% of the pilots shot down WW2, didn't have any idea what hit them. Same like driving down on the highway and changing lanes; watch is your life not a game. But in AH ,I'm paying for fun, entertainment, i don't care also if i get vulched, picked, and ACM offers more fun.

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Re: ACM vs. SA
« Reply #55 on: March 31, 2012, 01:06:07 PM »
I agree with BAR, and would even take it a step further, saying that in a fight ACM is perhaps even MORE important than SA is.

Let me explain why: SA compliments ACM, helping to keep you alive in the long run. Hwever, without ACM, you won't live through the short run, and the long-run becomes irrelevent.


Who cares if you're 10 times more likely to get shot down 5 minutes later if you DO manuver, as long as you survive RIGHT NOW where you're 10.0001 times more likely to be shot down if DON'T manuver.
You started this thread and it was obviously about your want and desire in spite of your use of 'we' and Google.

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