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Offline hawkeye61

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Re: spitfire mk xiv (14)
« Reply #75 on: April 21, 2012, 12:47:35 AM »
Quote from: Karnak on April 20, 2012, 01:15:23 PM
That doesn't make sense.  The horizontal stabilizes are the same as on the Mk VIII as are the wings.


Why to the Spitfire need significant increase in the size of the vertical stabilizer while the Bf109K-4 gets by fine on the same dinky little vertical stabilizer the Bf109E had?

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the late G-model and K-model 109s got a bigger vertical stab, along with the tall tailwheel.
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Re: spitfire mk xiv (14)
« Reply #76 on: April 21, 2012, 05:33:08 AM »
Quote from: Denniss on April 20, 2012, 03:15:51 PM
Continuous evolution instead of revolution regarding the engine, the DB 605 delivered more mover but gained little weight and still turned in the same direction. CoG was not really changed much from G to K-Series.
Uups - should have read "delivered more power" (not mover).


Quote from: hawkeye61 on April 21, 2012, 12:47:35 AM
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the late G-model and K-model 109s got a bigger vertical stab, along with the tall tailwheel.
Yes, that's right. Although the tailwheel in the 109K was retractable again.
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Re: spitfire mk xiv (14)
« Reply #77 on: April 21, 2012, 08:34:13 AM »
Ok, slightly larger.  Still, look at it compared to the tail on the Mk XIV, yet it is, on the same power, more stable.
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Re: spitfire mk xiv (14)
« Reply #78 on: April 21, 2012, 09:13:32 AM »
Difficult to compare two completely different airframes and "diagnose" what makes them aerodynamically different without a wind tunnel. The 109's fuselage may add more stability than the Spitfire's at high speed. The increased (and reversed in the Spit's case) prop wash may affect the tail surfaces differently. The variables are endless.
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Re: spitfire mk xiv (14)
« Reply #79 on: April 21, 2012, 01:28:10 PM »
Whats the complaint here Karnak? do you think that the 109K is too docile compared to what it was historicaly? Do you think the Spit 14 is too quirky, or are you just perplexed as to what made the Spit 14 such a brute to fly?
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Re: spitfire mk xiv (14)
« Reply #80 on: April 21, 2012, 01:53:10 PM »
No complaint.  Inquiring about why the difference is there.
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Re: spitfire mk xiv (14)
« Reply #81 on: April 21, 2012, 03:48:43 PM »
Not sure if anyone could pinpoint it exactly. Might be some strange occurence, like how early P-38's center of lift would move towards the tail at high speeds.
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Re: spitfire mk xiv (14)
« Reply #82 on: April 21, 2012, 03:51:05 PM »
how on earth did this turn into a 109 discussion? :headscratch:
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Re: spitfire mk xiv (14)
« Reply #83 on: April 21, 2012, 05:02:57 PM »
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Re: spitfire mk xiv (14)
« Reply #84 on: April 21, 2012, 05:09:29 PM »
Quote from: RTHolmes on April 21, 2012, 03:51:05 PM
how on earth did this turn into a 109 discussion? :headscratch:

You must be new to the forums.  :lol
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