FW-190 A-8 Specs (rate of climb, speed at alt, etc...)

[morfiend]

 Save,

  I think you took my example to literal!  what I really meant was that there will be little difference if HTC removes the said 200 LB's of weight,the difference between 3/4 and 1/4 is more than 200 lbs and personally I dont find a huge difference.

  I should quantify this statement by explaining that when I practice I fly heavy always,you'll find me in a 109 with full fuel and a DT most times,Fw I do the same so I'm very used to fly most the planes in a heavy state.


  YMMV.


   

[killnu]

I would welcome a 200 lb/kg (dont really care which) lighter A8.  Shave any weight off and it will have some effect.

[RTHolmes]

I wish I knew were the 500kg/200kg extra weight idea came from?

some of it is due to the difference between US and Imperial gallons. the brit documents use Imperial gallons, players have then tried to compare the weights/performance with AH's model which uses US gallons.

[morfiend]

some of it is due to the difference between US and Imperial gallons. the brit documents use Imperial gallons, players have then tried to compare the weights/performance with AH's model which uses US gallons.

  RTH,

  As a Canadian I've learnt to deal with both metric and imperial measurements,oh and the US gallon!


   I guess my point was more of how the figures and/or numbers get changed to suit the posters agenda.Mr Baumer is a friend of mine and we talked about the weight differences that he discovered.We had many discussions on the 190 series as it's a fav of mine.

 Personally I'd like to see the weights corrected but I also dont think it will make any difference in how the A8 flies but that's MHO.

 I think the biggest difference between AH's A8 and the real thing is we have no seat of the pants feeling and fly by visual cues,maybe a few audio cues aswell,were as the real pilots could feel what was happeneing to the A/C and could adjust the flight controls accordingly.Also the FW was a relatively easy plane to fly for low time pilots because of it's unique control system.


 YMMV.


   

[RTHolmes]

the A8s too heavy! thing seems to have a life of its own, my guess the Imp/US thing (which accounts for ~250lb error) started it off and chinese whispers have led to the A8 is 1000lb too heavy! (I'm not kidding, ive seen this a couple of times.) this is what happens if you dont refer to source docs then get your calculator out ...

our A8 is either ~20lb too heavy, or ~35lb too light, depending on whether we have the winter emergency equipment onboard, according to 2 original docs ive seen. I'd wager most AH pilots are carrying at least 20lb more than the average WWII luftwaffe pilot

our A8 chart is based on 9682lb and shows speeds ~10mph slower than test docs using an aircraft with less fuel onboard. it is even slower than tested A8s with even less fuel onboard ... which all makes sense.

other stuff like acceleration, turn rates etc ... not quite simple, but HT has test data for engine power, weight distribution, max speed, climbrate, stall speed etc so you can work back from there to get something realistic.


I can understand people questioning control surface authority, stall behaviour, E-bleed during maneuvering and other subtle stuff because you ultimately have to infer from the aircraft design and first hand accounts (I have doubts about the XVI compared to the IX/VIII but its not a simple matter of producing a WM test document to prove it), but when it comes to the basics like weight you have to start with the assumption that HTC has got it right.

[MiloMorai]

That 9682lb is with the rear fuselage aux fuel tank.

[RTHolmes]

yup

[RTHolmes]

As a Canadian I've learnt to deal with both metric and imperial measurements,oh and the US gallon!

thats a headfull

our roadsigns are in miles, speedos in mph and thats about it. I still think of food in lb and oz and convert from kg in my head. but how anyone ever managed to do science or engineering in imperial is beyond me though

[Denniss]

Wasn't there a space vehicle crashing into the Mars because some of the NASA engineers calculated with imperial values while others in metric which led to data confusion/miscalculations and ended with the crash of a multi-million dollar project?

[bustr]

Accepting that how we fly in the MA was never how LuftW 190 pilots conducted tactics to achive mission goals and survive. Basicly we have low level air show dance offs while hosing each other with Mac10's in hoodies without the gang signs. Instead we come in here and diss each others momma's or virtual womanhood.

Why is the A8 being beaten to death over the fact it equals the difference between a Dodge Truck Funny Car drag racer and a Formula One racer in real world manuverability?

Why are we obsessed with turning a 1600lb lumbering Cape buffalo into a 1600lb Prima ballerina gazelle and all the while indirectly accusing Hitech of standing in the way becasue he dosen't know what he's doing?

The A8 over the years I can remember has become a refinement of the ability to feel the A8 is wrong while not openly insulting Hitech by directly accusing him of gross neglegence in how he programed the A8 for this game. As far as I can tell his gross neglegence was the termerity to model a Fw190-A8 BMW 801 D2 1700hp rather than the Fw190-A8\R4 or R11  BMW 801 TU, TS or TH 2000hp leaving the A8 merely a wallowing 1600lb obese gazelle. Oh the Waaa of it all. Heck I'd like a Ju87-D5/8 with the 20mm wing guns and the 2-20mm under wing pods to furball with. Are we gonna get that..who knows....Waaaa.
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It would be more honest and mush less womanhoodish to Wishlist to Hitech and take your chances. That BMW 801 D2 is just gonna make you whine year after year otherwise.

Hitech please add the following to our fighter selection:

FW190-A8\R4
Fw190-A8\R11
FW190-A9 basic fighter

Then light candels, sacrafice cases of scotch and pray like the rest of us.

[USCH]

Accepting that how we fly in the MA was never how LuftW 190 pilots conducted tactics to achive mission goals and survive. Basicly we have low level air show dance offs while hosing each other with Mac10's in hoodies without the gang signs. Instead we come in here and diss each others momma's or virtual womanhood.

Why is the A8 being beaten to death over the fact it equals the difference between a Dodge Truck Funny Car drag racer and a Formula One racer in real world manuverability?

Why are we obsessed with turning a 1600lb lumbering Cape buffalo into a 1600lb Prima ballerina gazelle and all the while indirectly accusing Hitech of standing in the way becasue he dosen't know what he's doing?

The A8 over the years I can remember has become a refinement of the ability to feel the A8 is wrong while not openly insulting Hitech by directly accusing him of gross neglegence in how he programed the A8 for this game. As far as I can tell his gross neglegence was the termerity to model a Fw190-A8 BMW 801 D2 1700hp rather than the Fw190-A8\R4 or R11  BMW 801 TU, TS or TH 2000hp leaving the A8 merely a wallowing 1600lb obese gazelle. Oh the Waaa of it all. Heck I'd like a Ju87-D5/8 with the 20mm wing guns and the 2-20mm under wing pods to furball with. Are we gonna get that..who knows....Waaaa.
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It would be more honest and mush less womanhoodish to Wishlist to Hitech and take your chances. That BMW 801 D2 is just gonna make you whine year after year otherwise.

Hitech please add the following to our fighter selection:

FW190-A8\R4
Fw190-A8\R11
FW190-A9 basic fighter

Then light candels, sacrafice cases of scotch and pray like the rest of us.

[Guppy35]

Accepting that how we fly in the MA was never how LuftW 190 pilots conducted tactics to achive mission goals and survive. Basicly we have low level air show dance offs while hosing each other with Mac10's in hoodies without the gang signs. Instead we come in here and diss each others momma's or virtual womanhood.

Why is the A8 being beaten to death over the fact it equals the difference between a Dodge Truck Funny Car drag racer and a Formula One racer in real world manuverability?

Why are we obsessed with turning a 1600lb lumbering Cape buffalo into a 1600lb Prima ballerina gazelle and all the while indirectly accusing Hitech of standing in the way becasue he dosen't know what he's doing?

The A8 over the years I can remember has become a refinement of the ability to feel the A8 is wrong while not openly insulting Hitech by directly accusing him of gross neglegence in how he programed the A8 for this game. As far as I can tell his gross neglegence was the termerity to model a Fw190-A8 BMW 801 D2 1700hp rather than the Fw190-A8\R4 or R11  BMW 801 TU, TS or TH 2000hp leaving the A8 merely a wallowing 1600lb obese gazelle. Oh the Waaa of it all. Heck I'd like a Ju87-D5/8 with the 20mm wing guns and the 2-20mm under wing pods to furball with. Are we gonna get that..who knows....Waaaa.
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It would be more honest and mush less womanhoodish to Wishlist to Hitech and take your chances. That BMW 801 D2 is just gonna make you whine year after year otherwise.

Hitech please add the following to our fighter selection:

FW190-A8\R4
Fw190-A8\R11
FW190-A9 basic fighter

Then light candels, sacrafice cases of scotch and pray like the rest of us.

And a Spitfire XII along with a Spitfire LFIX with Universal full span wing

[R 105]

 The 190A-8s weight explains the performance lose in flight but the A-8 is a very armored plane for ground attack but our 190A-8 in not it seams. I am more likely to get a pilot wound deacking in it than I am in a Spit or the B-Pony. I can go to a large airfield kill all four ords and the dar in a P51-D with only two 500 lbs bombs and fly away.

[Lusche]

the A-8 is a very armored plane for ground attack

No, it's not. The F-8 is the heavy ground attack variant, a Schlachtflugzeug

[MiloMorai]

Some A-8s had extra armor added. The /R8 had 5mm side cockpit armor and extra 30mm cockpit glazing. The MK108 had some armor protection added (20mm and 4mm).