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Re: gliders
« Reply #15 on: April 05, 2012, 01:52:47 PM »
My grandfather was a WWII Glider Pilot.  Killed after landing in Wesel during operation varsity.  So, having glider, yup personally could be pretty interesting, especially if the actual tow could be simulated.  Would make for some cool scenario stuff as well.  My grandpas glider had a jeep with a anti tank weapon system on it when it landed.  What system exactly, the missing air crew report did not specify.  A jeep with a recoiless rifle could be fun......  

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Re: gliders
« Reply #16 on: April 05, 2012, 01:56:44 PM »
how bout this jeep


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« Reply #17 on: April 05, 2012, 01:59:19 PM »
your research sucks reference my last post before this one

Your research isn't very good if you claim a B-29 towed a glider but then you're just a troll so I doubt any research was done by yourself.

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Re: gliders
« Reply #18 on: April 05, 2012, 02:01:08 PM »
Your research isn't very good if you claim a B-29 towed a glider but then you're just a troll so I doubt any research was done by yourself.

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yeah cause i just posted a small part of my research but it so much easier to personally attack someone and call them a troll than prove your right or admit your wrong

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Re: gliders
« Reply #19 on: April 05, 2012, 02:26:06 PM »
I would like to see a picture of a B29 towing anything, frankly.  Why anyone would recommend taking the cutiing edge of technology and relegating it to a menial role is staggering.  Yes, pull thirty B29s off the line to become tugs instead of front line bombers. 

Maybe at a strech there is a hypothetical plane to transport a zillion, yes one zillion troops via glider to Japan and the B29 is the only thing that can do it???? Getting into a deep end with that one. 
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Re: gliders
« Reply #20 on: April 05, 2012, 02:35:12 PM »
I would like to see a picture of a B29 towing anything, frankly.  Why anyone would recommend taking the cutiing edge of technology and relegating it to a menial role is staggering.  Yes, pull thirty B29s off the line to become tugs instead of front line bombers. 

Maybe at a strech there is a hypothetical plane to transport a zillion, yes one zillion troops via glider to Japan and the B29 is the only thing that can do it???? Getting into a deep end with that one. 

totaly agree man but they would use 4 engine bombers to do this cause they could release the glider then bomb the area around where the glider was giong to land to clear any thing around
not saying it was popular most of the time it was c47 or that other british bomber thats not in the game but when your doing market garden type missions you use anything you can to get troops on the ground

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« Reply #21 on: April 05, 2012, 03:16:23 PM »
I seem to glide home alot this month.
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« Reply #22 on: April 05, 2012, 03:20:36 PM »
totaly agree man but they would use 4 engine bombers to do this cause they could release the glider then bomb the area around where the glider was giong to land to clear any thing around
not saying it was popular most of the time it was c47 or that other british bomber thats not in the game but when your doing market garden type missions you use anything you can to get troops on the ground

Brother, I offer this simple advice.  

The BBs like to think of itself as a home of fact, especially in the wishlist or aircraft and vehicle sections.  If you want to ever out live these posts, stop immediately and consider whether or not your comments are accurate.  You claim a B29 pulled a glider.  Post a picture or primary source.  It is that simple.  If you do not, you undermine your wish, which is a glider.  Personally I think they would add an interesting dynamic to the game.  Particularly to fields that do not have vehicle spawns into them.  

If you do not stick to just the facts and avoid what could have been (a la Luft' 46), you will be burned like the staypuff marshmallow man.  
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Re: gliders
« Reply #23 on: April 05, 2012, 03:43:01 PM »
Brother, I offer this simple advice.  

The BBs like to think of itself as a home of fact, especially in the wishlist or aircraft and vehicle sections.  If you want to ever out live these posts, stop immediately and consider whether or not your comments are accurate.  You claim a B29 pulled a glider.  Post a picture or primary source.  It is that simple.  If you do not, you undermine your wish, which is a glider.  Personally I think they would add an interesting dynamic to the game.  Particularly to fields that do not have vehicle spawns into them.  

If you do not stick to just the facts and avoid what could have been (a la Luft' 46), you will be burned like the staypuff marshmallow man.  

good point everyone is stuck on the b-29 thing

the fact is simple c-47's towed gliders all the time
they carried troops or jeeps or LIGHT tanks (like jeeps, M3 troop transport, or a M3 Stuart or a M8 greyhound or a M22 locust) vehicles under 8 tons
it could add a fun and interesting role to the game there are a ton of uses i can think of
the other part to this is you can't land these on a town or base still cause of the ack
its just a way of getting gv's to a base that has no gv spawn

and here is a great link for the national archive files relating to gliders

http://yourarchives.nationalarchives.gov.uk/index.php?title=Gliders_WWII
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« Reply #24 on: April 05, 2012, 03:48:13 PM »
I would like to see the ability of a C47 to carry 10 troops, and then a glider with the ability to carry another 10. You take the hit in speed, but if you make it you get double the troops. If the glider gets a wing blown off, it takes the tow plane down with it unless the tow plane releases quickly. If the tow plane goes down the glider can release and glide to the town if its close. Each is worth a kill.
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« Reply #25 on: April 05, 2012, 03:50:39 PM »
Towing gliders is also quite difficult, and takes some skill from the pilot to not kill both of them.
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« Reply #26 on: April 05, 2012, 03:52:03 PM »
Also code is so there is only a certain amount of stress the tow rope can handle, and if that amount is exceeded the rope snaps. Just like IRL.
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Re: gliders
« Reply #27 on: April 05, 2012, 06:29:52 PM »
actualy the ones they built later in war the CG-13 had the following specs

General characteristics
Crew: 2 pilots
Capacity: 30 or 42 troops (including flight crew)
Length: 54 ft 4 in (16.56 m)
Wingspan: 85 ft 8 in (26.11 m)
Height: 20 ft 3 in (6.17 m)
Wing area: 873 ft² (81.10 m²)
Empty weight: 8,700 lb (3,946 kg)
Loaded weight: 18,900 (8,572 kg)
Useful load: 10,200 lb (4,626 kg)

give a ability to carry slightly heavier

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Re: gliders
« Reply #28 on: April 06, 2012, 12:40:12 AM »
I would like to see the ability of a C47 to carry 10 troops, and then a glider with the ability to carry another 10. You take the hit in speed, but if you make it you get double the troops. If the glider gets a wing blown off, it takes the tow plane down with it unless the tow plane releases quickly. If the tow plane goes down the glider can release and glide to the town if its close. Each is worth a kill.

ok let's try again, if you carry more than 10 troops and a c47 with 10 plus a glider with 10 makes it twenty.  then the number of troops needed to capture the base would be raised to twenty.  this has been discussed to death.

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Re: gliders
« Reply #29 on: April 06, 2012, 01:28:03 AM »
Hmm...  A group of people puts out that they will be upping C-47's with gliders loaded with jeeps + troops/supplies.  The person that joins the C-47, is placed into the Glider, where they release the glider and land.  After they stop on the ground, an option like "Deploy" appears where we would normally see "Load Supplies".  The Glider despawns and in it's place, a jeep which the glider pilot drives appears.  I kind of like this idea, but the coding required sounds like a nightmare.  How would you score the glider sortie?  Maybe gv or bomber?  When the glider touches down then "deploy's" it's jeep, does that mean a successful landing for the glider (unless it lands next to an enemy at which point they get a proxy)?
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