Bf-109 Training?

[Alky]

Its better knowing where the line is between being smart and gay.

So, you're saying homosexuals are... dumb??   

[Ardy123]

Oh I've been called plenty of names and I don't care. In my opinion, you can pick and BnZ as much as you like, as long as you have the skill to make it up in a TnB 1v1 situation. If all you do is pick and *run*, oh god, especially *RUN*, then you're a muffin. Only time I'll ever run is when: A. No ammo/fuel B. Critical damage (radiator/PW/flaps) or C. There's just too many to handle (4+). I pick all the time, I admit it, but when I get caught, I don't run, I stick it out and fight unless A,B,C happens. C happens way too much though  .

Here is the thing...

I have rarely seen people actually BnZ correctly. Most of the time their success hinges on being on the numerically superior side and picking or running. In another thread, I said skill is making the others wanting to come back for more.
Do you want more of some dude diving from 20k, picking your, then running away? or would you rather play with someone who is willing to get in and dirty with ya, where BOTH of you have your adrenalin pumping and the outcome is not sealed until the very end.


This is a game, you have nothing on the line, so 'easy' kills will quickly devolve into a snooze fest.

[kilo2]

what are you trying to prove? Does running around diving down from 5k advantage and zooming back up allow you to "learn" a plane?  


Only way to learn a plane is to fly it on edge!

My point once again is you need to be able to do both things.

E fighting is more than BnZ. If you have ever fought from a disadvantage trying to equalize E states or force the over shoot you E fought.

[JOACH1M]

My point once again is you need to be able to do both things.

E fighting is more than BnZ. If you have ever fought from a disadvantage trying to equalize E states or force the over shoot you E fought.

Your definition of E fighting is different from mine.

[morfiend]

 Excuse me but this is help and training forum,most of this thread has little to do with help and/or training and has developed into a purse fight with some of "look at me" thrown in.

   Please take this to the Oclub or GD forum unless you have something to add that will assist player.Discussing how lame one style is verses the other isnt constructive at all.



  

[kilo2]

Excuse me but this is help and training forum,most of this thread has little to do with help and/or training and has developed into a purse fight with some of "look at me" thrown in.

   Please take this to the Oclub or GD forum unless you have something to add that will assist player.Discussing how lame one style is verses the other isnt constructive at all.



  

Well I don't see any purses. Not much look at me either. Maybe a bit of back seat modding but I guess that is natural. You missed my point as well no fighting style is better or worse than the other.

[morfiend]

Well I don't see any purses. Not much look at me either. Maybe a bit of back seat modding but I guess that is natural. You missed my point as well no fighting style is better or worse than the other.

   





   

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[LCADolby]

Real men fly Emils 

[Debrody]

Real men fly Emils 

Now its my turn to ask...
How you can evade an enemy attack in the Emil? Its turn and climb rate isnt that good, i couldnt force it to perform the snaproll i like to use in the later models, its slow speed roll rate is horrible for me, also i couldnt make it do the torque/tailwhip reversal tricks as with the g6/k4. Im an epic fail  flying it. But you know what im talking about, you killed me every single time when we fought in Emils.

Could you post some intense Emil-dogfight films please, where youre doing your best, for example, outscissoring a spit flown by an experienced player?
Thank you in advance.

[Tank-Ace]

Only way to learn a plane is to fly it on edge!

Real men fly Emils 

For once, I agree whole heartedly with Joachim and Dolby. You only really learn your plane when you push things, and see exactly what it can and can't do.


And real men do fly Emils, or similarly disadvantaged aircraft.

[RedBull1]

Now its my turn to ask...
How you can evade an enemy attack in the Emil? Its turn and climb rate isnt that good, i couldnt force it to perform the snaproll i like to use in the later models, its slow speed roll rate is horrible for me, also i couldnt make it do the torque/tailwhip reversal tricks as with the g6/k4. Im an epic fail  flying it. But you know what im talking about, you killed me every single time when we fought in Emils.

Could you post some intense Emil-dogfight films please, where youre doing your best, for example, outscissoring a spit flown by an experienced player?
Thank you in advance.

Dolby is a Emil beast, along with AntiTank, love fighting both of them!   

[LCADolby]

Now its my turn to ask...
How you can evade an enemy attack in the Emil? Its turn and climb rate isnt that good, i couldnt force it to perform the snaproll i like to use in the later models, its slow speed roll rate is horrible for me, also i couldnt make it do the torque/tailwhip reversal tricks as with the g6/k4. Im an epic fail  flying it. But you know what im talking about, you killed me every single time when we fought in Emils.

Could you post some intense Emil-dogfight films please, where youre doing your best, for example, outscissoring a spit flown by an experienced player?
Thank you in advance.

Evading is tricky at times

General evasion - turn and loop
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtlDKhCquuU&feature=player_detailpage#t=254s
I do a wingover roll tailside thing;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&list=PL0C2B03C2B7D0E40F&v=vF0omJyT-Z4#t=50s
and climbing barrelroll;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&list=PL0C2B03C2B7D0E40F&v=vF0omJyT-Z4#t=131s

I don't think I very often commit to trying doing the scissors.. and any experience Spit16 flying would only runaway from me then commit to a BnZ.

[LCADolby]

Dolby is a Emil beast, along with AntiTank, love fighting both of them!   

It won't be long until Raphael's kicking my behind consistantly.

[Tank-Ace]

Brody, in the 109E, you're not going to scissor with just about anything. Its just not going to happen.