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Offline grizz441

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Re: Math question
« Reply #45 on: April 09, 2012, 11:18:44 PM »
Try again genious.  A=0  The equation is MA+A=AM  to get M(0)+0=0(M)

F--- for you.  You are not using the equation from the OP.

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Re: Math question
« Reply #46 on: April 09, 2012, 11:20:52 PM »
the problem would have no answer if you assume that AM is the same as AxM. Since MA would be the same as AM, adding 1 to MA would make it impossible to equal AM.

The thread was titled "Math question". As such, nobody should assume that there is a possible solution.

That said, in this case, there are no bad answers, it's the question which is wrong.

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Re: Math question
« Reply #47 on: April 09, 2012, 11:43:58 PM »
The thread was titled "Math question". As such, nobody should assume that there is a possible solution.

That said, in this case, there are no bad answers, it's the question which is wrong.

um ? why should ?   " nobody assume that there is a possible solution". 
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Re: Math question
« Reply #48 on: April 10, 2012, 12:28:57 AM »
um ? why should ?   " nobody assume that there is a possible solution".  

Thread title says "Math question" and there are many unsolved problems in math. Is that reason good enough?

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Re: Math question
« Reply #49 on: April 10, 2012, 01:07:32 AM »
There 3 types of persons in this world, those who know math and those who dont.

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Re: Math question
« Reply #50 on: April 10, 2012, 01:43:07 AM »
Try again genious.  A=0  The equation is MA+A=AM  to get M(0)+0=0(M)

F--- for you.  You are not using the equation from the OP.

Doh! I don't know where I got the '+1' from.  You are correct as the equation in the OP is written.

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Re: Math question
« Reply #51 on: April 10, 2012, 08:28:36 AM »
When did multiplication come into effect?

You have two variables next to each other which implies multiplication.
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Re: Math question
« Reply #52 on: April 10, 2012, 08:59:25 AM »
I don't always sarcastically call someone Genius, but, when I do, I prefer to spell Genius correctly.

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 :rofl  You know it looked wrong when I typed it, but I didn't bother with the spell checker. 

Doesn't change the fact that I am right about the equation though.   :D

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Re: Math question
« Reply #53 on: April 10, 2012, 09:08:13 AM »
It isn't a Math question as it was advertised then.

Agreed.. not in the true sense anyway.
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Re: Math question
« Reply #54 on: April 10, 2012, 10:03:34 AM »
It isn't a Math question as it was advertised then.

This is a typical question in the SAT math section. Just saying

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Re: Math question
« Reply #55 on: April 10, 2012, 11:21:00 AM »
IF we are to interpret MA as M*A as would be via standard math nomenclature, then this question is as stupid as saying

a(0) + 0 = 0 what is a? or a/0 = b what is a?

Joachim's post about asking why we were interpreting it as multiplication seems to imply that the original question that was copied was

1) Not math problem but a riddle
2) As a math problem where MA is interpreted as M * A, the initial problem violates the commutative property of multiplication, unless one of the variables is 0 (thus giving the other infinite possibilities). ie [MA + A = AM] =  [(M + 1)A = MA] thus A = 0. M(0) + 0 = 0(M)

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Re: Math question
« Reply #56 on: April 10, 2012, 11:30:48 AM »
This is a typical question in the SAT math section. Just saying

I can imagine in 2nd, 3rd grade before learning elementary algebra. Once you hit algebra, two variables side by side are always abbreviated multiplication. There should be no other interpretation for everyone past 4th grade.


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Re: Math question
« Reply #57 on: April 10, 2012, 11:43:15 AM »
I can imagine in 2nd, 3rd grade before learning elementary algebra. Once you hit algebra, two variables side by side are always abbreviated multiplication. There should be no other interpretation for everyone past 4th grade.



Usually lower case but yeah. I have seen a similar question in SAT related material before. Maybe the problem statement specifies digits but Joachim summarized incorrectly for us.

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Re: Math question
« Reply #58 on: April 10, 2012, 02:03:49 PM »
Thread title says "Math question" and there are many unsolved problems in math. Is that reason good enough?
there are many answered problems in math therefore everyone should assume there is a possible solution ...
Same logic both beg the question ..
Both would be equal in terms of good using your rule, but would then contradict your rule.so no your answer is not good enough
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Re: Math question
« Reply #59 on: April 10, 2012, 02:58:01 PM »
there are many answered problems in math therefore everyone should assume there is a possible solution ...
Same logic both beg the question ..
Both would be equal in terms of good using your rule, but would then contradict your rule.so no your answer is not good enough

Not even remotely equal.

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