Saitek Av8r has dual throttles, twisty rudders, view hats, and several other programable buttons. I got mine a few years back for about $30 at Walmart. That's just an extra I keep for use with my laptop. For most of the AH flying, I have a Saitek X45 that I've been using since 2003 with no problems, along with Saitek rudder pedals that I bought to replace my CH pedals which kept having problems.