F4U-1 Wing Breakage

[Noah17]

Can someone tell me why the wing of the F4U-1 snaps so easily compared to the 1A or, other models?

I don't fly the -1 as much as the -1A but, when I do I've noticed the wing breaking on a hard pull of the -1 that the -1A would barely "creak" over. I pulled the wing off while in a dive at the mid 400 range in the -1. I've made the same pull in a -1A with no problem. This has happened several times.

The damn things breaks like a Spit wing. I not aware of any design/construction differences in the F4U that would cause this. The only difference is the little stabilizer tab that was supposed to prevent stalls at low speed/landing situations and, that shouldn't have any affect on the wing strength.

 

[lulu]

I never brooke a f4u-1 wing.  

Can you tell me how hell do you do ?    

I cannot figure how much power you put into your stick
when diving at 400 mph.
I suppose is a lot of power such that you risk to broke your stick too.


 

[Lusche]

Do you have a film of that? If not, you maybe should try to recreate it with fillm rolling.

That being said, I don't remember having ever snapped off a wing in any F4U, including the -1 

[jd]

 

[LilMak]

I ripped both ailerons off a -4 in a dive recently. Was a little over 400 and didn't put any G load on the wings either. Brand new plane no hits taken. Was able to get it home but was a little upset with it.

[dirtdart]

I have indeed ripped the wings off of a U4 before.  Then again, full combat trim in a 500+ mph dive blackout, at 3k from 20k might just stress the airframe enough.  Oddly, my cartoon pilot could not handle the Gs (clearly under modeled) and my U4 broke into pieces, also clearly undermodeled.  

If only HTC put some though into the physics of the game  

JK HT  

[LilMak]

I have indeed ripped the wings off of a U4 before.  Then again, full combat trim in a 500+ mph dive blackout, at 3k from 20k might just stress the airframe enough.  Oddly, my cartoon pilot could not handle the Gs (clearly under modeled) and my U4 broke into pieces, also clearly undermodeled.  

If only HTC put some though into the physics of the game  

JK HT  

Just seems to be a recent development. They used to compress before there was any danger of breaking anything. Just won't flog it as hard as I used to.

[Wiley]

Maybe it's not a wing strength issue, but perhaps different behavior at speed or when it comes out of compression?

I haven't spent a lot of time in the hogs lately, but I know on some planes, if you're compressed you can haul back on the stick as hard as you like and as you slow down, it will gradually come out of the dive without overstressing the wings.  Jugs are a good example of this.

Other planes, if you're hauling back on the stick in the same way, when it comes out of compression, there's a distinct 'snap' where it's like the elevator and wings suddenly gain purchase over a period of about a tenth of a second, and WHAM you've pegged the G meter.  I believe the 109K4's a good example of this.  If you're over a certain speed, when it crosses that threshold, if you don't see it happening and ease off the stick it's real easy to pull the wings off.

Could be something along those lines.  Like I say, I haven't spent a lot of time in hogs lately so my memory about the details between models is a bit fuzzy.

Wiley.

[ALFAMEGA51]

Ive only had the -4s break on me before over 500mph, i can't believe the -1 did, those planes are tough as nails, was your wing already damaged possibly? (If that has anything to do with it)   
 

[Rob52240]

Here's some film of a 1 model.  It surprised the heck out of me when the wings broke as I have never had the wings break on a corsair before.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urd8Aor7M44&list=UUGJG5MO8EzB5HA4u6Q4QXow&index=12&feature=plcp

[bustr]

I think you lost your wingtips by being too low when your bomb went off. I full screened that and your U1 was down in the blast radius.

[Rob52240]

I see the wings breaking at the bottom of the dive before the bomb goes off.

[Wofat]

I dive after P-47 in my P-40f over weekend (just dive - no turn).  P-40f wing break and P-47 get way.

My fault.  Know your plane! 

[Delirium]

I've broken many a F4U's wings before; some .50 cal does the job quite nicely. 

[Guppy35]

I compressed my 38j yesterday and was stuck at 499 while working my way out of it.  A D9 followed me down and hit 599 before pulling out.  A K4 hit 609 following me and did not pull out.

I've never felt that slow compressing before