bomber ammuntion

[Dover]

the guns on bombers are so bad on here
first you get the ammo stuck to the gun they could and would easily pass from one gun to the next if your gun is out you should be able to transfer ammo from another even put a delay in makes sense after all
yeah i get the guns can be damaged but they where all easily changed out why not have a delay to swap a broken gun from one position to another again put in a delay for the time it takes the guys to do the work

[Peyton]

the guns on bombers are so bad on here
first you get the ammo stuck to the gun they could and would easily pass from one gun to the next if your gun is out you should be able to transfer ammo from another even put a delay in makes sense after all
yeah i get the guns can be damaged but they where all easily changed out why not have a delay to swap a broken gun from one position to another again put in a delay for the time it takes the guys to do the work

Good idea, but I don't think there is any code in the game that lets you do inflight repairs.

[Spikes]

The guns on the bombers are so bad on here.
First, you get the ammo stuck to the gun. They could and would easily pass from one gun to the next if your gun is out. You should be able to transfer ammo from another...even put a delay in. It makes sense after all. Yeah, I get the guns can be damaged, but they were all easily changed out. Why not have a delay to swap a broken gun from one position to another? Again, put in a delay for the time it takes the guys to do the work.

Fixed.

Now, it is a reasonable request, however I'd assume that this would take a lot of coding, etc. to be able to swap guns out. I think for the most part it works fine the way it is.

[colmbo]

the guns on bombers are so bad on here
first you get the ammo stuck to the gun they could and would easily pass from one gun to the next if your gun is out you should be able to transfer ammo from another even put a delay in makes sense after all
yeah i get the guns can be damaged but they where all easily changed out why not have a delay to swap a broken gun from one position to another again put in a delay for the time it takes the guys to do the work

On the B-17 and B-24 ammo for the tail, nose, ball and top turrets was loaded into fixed boxes with several belts linked together.  While it would be "possible" to transfer ammo it wouldn't be practical and quite likely just wasn't done.  As for switching out a gun the ball turret and chin turret could only be done while on the ground.  Probably the only practical switch would be from one waist position to another.

I'm thinking that in game damage to a gun isn't just to the gun but is a kill/wound to the gunner.

[MK-84]

the guns on bombers are so bad on here
first you get the ammo stuck to the gun they could and would easily pass from one gun to the next if your gun is out you should be able to transfer ammo from another even put a delay in makes sense after all
yeah i get the guns can be damaged but they where all easily changed out why not have a delay to swap a broken gun from one position to another again put in a delay for the time it takes the guys to do the work

I'm no expert but I imagine it would be nearly impossible to accomplish inflight and was very rarely at best done.

I'm thinking that at altitude in a very small cramped aircraft with bulky flightsuits (that were plugged in for heat) moving guns that were really not designed with swapping in mind would be totally impossible.  To even consider moving ammo to a different gun would be a herculean task.  And I'm sure no one would want to shut down function of a working gun to move ammo to another position.

[TheMercinary60]

why stop there? why not switch guns between drones??!!!! i can see it now, toss a zip line between bombers and move the guns that way  

[Rob52240]

Damage can be done to guns or gunners.  Or both.

[thndregg]

Whatever fits both the historical and game contexts is fine with me. I can only recommend practicing good tactics, both offensive, defensive, and evasive when needed if you intend on surviving your sortie and landing (with kills) successfully. Patience & planning is key.

[AHTbolt]

No.

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[guncrasher]

the guns on bombers are so bad on here
first you get the ammo stuck to the gun they could and would easily pass from one gun to the next if your gun is out you should be able to transfer ammo from another even put a delay in makes sense after all
yeah i get the guns can be damaged but they where all easily changed out why not have a delay to swap a broken gun from one position to another again put in a delay for the time it takes the guys to do the work

do you even know how the ammo was loaded in the bombers?  look it up in youtube then guns were mostly reloaded from the outside, just like in the fighters.


semp

[Old Sport]

"By now, because of the loss of so many ships (B-17s) that were behind us, we found ourselves to be in the unenviable position of "tail end Charlie"! The battle was now approaching two hours, which for an air battle was rare. Our tail gunner had run out of ammunition and came up to where I was (top turret) to get some of what I had left."
Sam Hewitt 15th Air Force

"There we were, two groups, one a B-17 group and one a B-24. When the fighters showed up the B-24 leader slid our formation in under the B-17 group, for more protection as well as for more defense against the fighters. So where did they attack? Yes right in my corner, low left and last. You can see why they called it Purple Heart Corner. My tail gunner, George Federlin shot up all of his ammo and the waist gunner took more ammo to him."
George R. Insley - ETO 1943 to 1945 - 44th Bomb Group, 2nd Air Division, 8th Air Force, based in Shipdon, England. 48 combat missions

[Dover]

"By now, because of the loss of so many ships (B-17s) that were behind us, we found ourselves to be in the unenviable position of "tail end Charlie"! The battle was now approaching two hours, which for an air battle was rare. Our tail gunner had run out of ammunition and came up to where I was (top turret) to get some of what I had left."
Sam Hewitt 15th Air Force

"There we were, two groups, one a B-17 group and one a B-24. When the fighters showed up the B-24 leader slid our formation in under the B-17 group, for more protection as well as for more defense against the fighters. So where did they attack? Yes right in my corner, low left and last. You can see why they called it Purple Heart Corner. My tail gunner, George Federlin shot up all of his ammo and the waist gunner took more ammo to him."
George R. Insley - ETO 1943 to 1945 - 44th Bomb Group, 2nd Air Division, 8th Air Force, based in Shipdon, England. 48 combat missions

thanks old sport
sorry hadn't logged on here in a few days
external loading ammo not in the ww2 bomber in modern day yes is smaller bomber yes but not the 4 engine ones im talking about
the canisters on the airplane for the box feed ones where all in one area and often when one ran low the center gunners would transfer from box to box for them
all im asking is for the ammo to be able to be switched so when your on long flights you get one guy who attacks you and then there may be a long delay till the next does your gunners should be allowed to either shift position if the one guy died or shift ammo if they ran out
hot swapping guns was a less common task but was documented as well (whatever it takes to survive was the idea)
i'm just asking to be allowed to do what anyone in real life would do if you where on that plane

[Butcher]

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wouldn't be a fan of moving ammunition around, buffs have it easy enough with 2 drones and all guns firing at once, either conserve your ammo better or learn to deal with it.

Buff gunning isn't exactly the hardest thing to learn, with proper conserving of ammo you can easily get 4-5 kills without a problem from one station alone (i.e rear or front).

[Rino]

     I'm trying to picture trying to move an 84lb 50 caliber through the tight confines of a bomber fuselage.  Sounds tough even before you
consider wearing the heavy clothing, flak jacket and oxygen mask.  Add in the different mounts and the ammo and I imagine the fight
might be over by the time you'd finish.

     Of course the 7.92mm would be easier, but still not easy.  I've been learning about WW2 aviation for at least 4 decades and I cannot
remember coming across an account of this being attempted in flight.  It's very possible I have missed something, but it surely didn't
seem to be common.

[VonMessa]

Whatever fits both the historical and game contexts is fine with me. I can only recommend practicing good tactics, both offensive, defensive, and evasive when needed if you intend on surviving your sortie and landing (with kills) successfully. Patience & planning is key.

^^^

This !