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Offline TheAssi

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Re: Japan to be without nuclear power after May 5
« Reply #15 on: April 19, 2012, 12:19:10 AM »
Well, in the case of the Japanese people...  They do have some reason to be a little gun shy when it comes to nuclear accidents.


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Re: Japan to be without nuclear power after May 5
« Reply #16 on: April 19, 2012, 05:02:05 AM »
The is bad and getting worst, but  media doesn't talk much about this subject to avoid panic; I read some rumors about Japan planing a massive  evacuation, milions of people; the area around the plant is to radioactive even for robots to work.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxJJ7VX5VUM

Very informative video.
The last part where he addresses the possibility of the unit #4 building tipping over with its TONS of spent fuel rods is quite sobering.

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Re: Japan to be without nuclear power after May 5
« Reply #17 on: April 19, 2012, 06:51:15 AM »
I'm not sure, but it seems many of you have misunderstood the OP's article.


"Trade Minister Yukio Edano signalled it would take at least several weeks before the government, keen to avoid a power crunch, can give a final go-ahead to restarts..."

"In discussing restarts of the No.3 and No.4 reactors at Kansai Electric's Ohi nuclear power plant, in western Japan, the first to clear the government's technical review on resilience against a severe event..."


Japan isn't abandoning nuclear power. They're reviewing their safety protocols and considering safety improvements before authorizing restarts. Big difference.
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Re: Japan to be without nuclear power after May 5
« Reply #18 on: April 19, 2012, 06:59:12 AM »
Yada, yada, yada...the plot thickens.

In the UK they have discovered that with fracking technology they have as much natural gas energy as the middle east. Right now that government is going through the process of allowing it to be accessed. When this sorts out the UK will have a massive economic boom, jobs, salaries, etc and energy will be cheaper. It will take 5-7 years to really take hold but when it does...big time!

As this is developing in the UK what is being discovered is that Russia is beyind the opposition to changing these policies. Russia has a near monopoly of natural gas into Europe and this would end with the UK changing their policy. What we are going to see over the next 18 months is that most of the environmental movement has been backed and funded by Russia and Russian intelligence. It has been an intentional effort by this country to both harm our economies and boost their own.

The environmental movement is not what it seems. This relates to Japan in the same manner, harming their opponents. I know, put one of those black helicopter icons as a response though in 18months or so I will be a prophet. It is already being leaked. Just a matter of time before the dots are completly connected and then...bye bye envirocrap crew!

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Re: Japan to be without nuclear power after May 5
« Reply #19 on: April 19, 2012, 07:04:19 AM »
...The environmental movement is not what it seems. This relates to Japan in the same manner, harming their opponents. I know, put one of those black helicopter icons as a response though in 18months or so I will be a prophet. It is already being leaked. Just a matter of time before the dots are completly connected and then...bye bye envirocrap crew!

Errrr, you're saying the 'environmental issues' are an economic power play?




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Re: Japan to be without nuclear power after May 5
« Reply #20 on: April 19, 2012, 07:32:37 AM »
There is a lot of orchestrated opposition to fracking too. They found gas here recently and the anti fracking crowd were in action immediately. This is in spite of the fact that they found enough gas to supply the entire country for twelve years.

One of the objections they have to fracking is that it undermines the whole Green fantasy future of so called renewable energy. It also stymies their plans to cover the country in inefficient windmills.

The truth is, whatever way it goes. In the future nuclear will be the only option for most of the world. Green dreams aside.

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Re: Japan to be without nuclear power after May 5
« Reply #21 on: April 19, 2012, 10:19:37 AM »
Very informative video.
The last part where he addresses the possibility of the unit #4 building tipping over with its TONS of spent fuel rods is quite sobering.

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"The is bad", opps my poor English+i didn't read what i wrote before posting, sorry.
 Unit 4 is their worst nightmare ; Fukushima  makes the governments rethink the use of nuclear energy; Germany has already announced a multimillion plan to eliminate totally in next years; I read this one north of San Diego was closed last month; been driving many times on I-5 , this is dangerous  located, half way between San Diego and LA heavy populated area, earthquake zone,  20-30 feet above sea level vulnerable to light tsunami;

story here on CNN;
http://edition.cnn.com/2012/04/06/us/california-nuclear-plant/?hpt=hp_t2

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Re: Japan to be without nuclear power after May 5
« Reply #22 on: April 19, 2012, 10:59:36 AM »
See Rule #14
« Last Edit: April 19, 2012, 02:19:30 PM by Skuzzy »
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Re: Japan to be without nuclear power after May 5
« Reply #23 on: April 19, 2012, 11:39:52 AM »
Germany has already announced a multimillion plan to eliminate totally in next years

What are you going to replace it with? Oil from the Russian pipeline?

The planet on a whole is not ready to be limiting its energy choices, not until something at least as efficient is available.
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Re: Japan to be without nuclear power after May 5
« Reply #24 on: April 19, 2012, 12:09:16 PM »
What are you going to replace it with? Oil from the Russian pipeline? 

"Germany’s $263 Billion Renewables Shift Biggest Since War"
http://www.businessweek.com/news/2012-03-18/germany-s-270-billion-renewables-shift-biggest-since-war

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Re: Japan to be without nuclear power after May 5
« Reply #25 on: April 19, 2012, 12:14:07 PM »
See Rule #14
« Last Edit: April 19, 2012, 02:20:07 PM by Skuzzy »
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Re: Japan to be without nuclear power after May 5
« Reply #26 on: April 19, 2012, 12:18:21 PM »
See Rule #14
« Last Edit: April 19, 2012, 02:20:17 PM by Skuzzy »
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Re: Japan to be without nuclear power after May 5
« Reply #27 on: April 19, 2012, 12:19:40 PM »
Germany will back off of this shortly. There is already cracks in the policy. Wind is attractive but hardly a replacement for fossil fuels.

Agreed... until some other reliable and efficient source of power is available, oil, natural gas, and nuclear power will reign supreme.

I do feel we are within sight of developing another source, one that will wildly change the political landscape of the world, overnight.
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Re: Japan to be without nuclear power after May 5
« Reply #28 on: April 19, 2012, 12:32:32 PM »
The future:

"The U.S. Department of Energy on Friday announced a plan to support the design of so-called “small modular nuclear reactors” and popularize their use for power generation."

http://www.forbes.com/sites/uciliawang/2012/01/20/feds-to-finance-small-nuclear-reactor-designs/
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Re: Japan to be without nuclear power after May 5
« Reply #29 on: April 19, 2012, 12:53:55 PM »
I have a friend who has been working on a nuc license for 5-years now. He has raised and spent over $50 mil. I am not into nuc power so I have no idea any acronyms etc. I do know he hired a\the director of nuc energy from the Bush admin in hopes he can help him navigate the regulatory nightmare that is getting a license.

Last I spoke with my buddy (year ago) they have moved their time frame back many years. While on the one hand the current admin releases info about what they are going to do what they are actually doing is something different. I doubt my buddy will ever get the license. I hope he does but...

The hostility towards anything but solar and wind is thick. Who is getting the last laugh on this one?

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