MY ME 410

[Volron]

Back in AH1 another player and I did some tests.  The B-17G's tail took 17 hits from the P-38's M2 20mm cannon to remove.  The Lancaster Mk III's tail took 14 hits.  The Mosquito Mk VI took 3 hits.  The Bf110G-2 took 2 hits to remove.

I can't vouch that these numbers are still valid.

It sure feels like it is still that way.  A majority of the time I'm shot down in a 110, my tail decided to bugger off all after a couple of pings.

[Charge]

"Me410 = Mossie food and the Mossie ain't exactly a top end fighter."

I think I already hear a whaambulance incoming. 410 is capable of pulling more angles with a better snapshot ability and in a knife fight they should be rather equal. Mossie is faster but the MK103 rounds are still faster than Mossie. 

-C+

[Karnak]

410 is capable of pulling more angles with a better snapshot ability and in a knife fight they should be rather equal.

What makes you say that?  I don't have any turn radius data, but the wingloading data I have seen does not paint a favorable picture for the Me410.

As far as I can tell, all performance meters, other than perhaps roll rate, go to the Mosquito VI and firepower goes to the Me410, not that either will survive being in the sights of the other.

I will readily admit that I expect the Me410 to dethrone the Mosquito Mk VI as having the best air-to-air gun package in AH.

EDIT:
Based on quick calcs from unverified data:
Wing loading for the Me410 ranges from about 37lbs.sq/ft empty to about 63lbs.sq/ft fully loaded.

Wing loading for the Mosquito Mk VI ranges from about 29lbs.sq/ft empty to about 48lbs.sq/ft fully loaded.

Wing loading for the Mosquito Mk VI in AH with 50% fuel, overload ammo and no bombs or rockets with an all up weight of 18463lbs is 40.667lbs.sq/ft.

If my calculations are correct an empty Me410 barely has lower wing loading than a Mosquito Mk VI loaded for air-to-air.  What we need to find out is how the slats and flaps on the Me410 perform.

[Reaper90]

if you act like a child Ill treat you like a child treat people the way you want to be treated ya  Coot LOL

Easy there, AngerBoy, I thought your parents were gonna pull the plug on AH due to the tantrums? 

[Slade]

oop  wrong thread...

[danny76]

RedBull Don't Be an prettythang I was Just Asking.  RedBull if you act like a child Ill treat you like a child treat people the way you want to be treated ya  Coot LOL

such as, without the common decency of punctuation?

[Charge]

"What makes you say that?"

Mossie uses a "fast" low drag wingprofile which has limited angles performance where as 410 has a NACA 18% root profile making it a better performer in angles, add slats to that and it is a very much different performer in angles fight. The problem for 410 is that is does not have enough engine power to carry out such fight for long. I recall that Mossie has better powerloading figures so that pretty much gives a clue what is preferred tactic for these two when they run into each other.

-C+

[danny76]

i just hope it has the option of rear cannon nacelles. It'll make a change to be able fire back at the guys perpetually hammering my tail............should be careful writing things like that

[Karnak]

i just hope it has the option of rear cannon nacelles. It'll make a change to be able fire back at the guys perpetually hammering my tail............should be careful writing things like that

Do you mean the 13mm machine guns?  It didn't have any cannons facing rearward.

[morfiend]

 Yes and the rear guns aren't optional,if anything it should be optional to remove the rear firring Mg's!






   

[mthrockmor]

Did 410 come with option of no rear firing guns? In any case, I'm about to start flinging mashed potatos with gravy like its animal house if we don't get this bird soon!!

At least post some pics...tease me good and proper. This stuff about wing loading, slats and big round things like engines, big ol' tightly wrapped May West type gun packages are just making me shiver. Sheesh!!

Boo

[Tracerfi]

Easy there, AngerBoy, I thought your parents were gonna pull the plug on AH due to the tantrums? 

Yea Not Now It seems they have given me another chance to redeem my self other then that I speak the truth many people have said this "If you are gonna act like a child you gonna be treated like one" That truth in life I dont like it but who does Ok Sorry Reaper90 But I can argue  reaper90 and dont be a wisecracker

[Butcher]

Did 410 come with option of no rear firing guns? In any case, I'm about to start flinging mashed potatos with gravy like its animal house if we don't get this bird soon!!

At least post some pics...tease me good and proper. This stuff about wing loading, slats and big round things like engines, big ol' tightly wrapped May West type gun packages are just making me shiver. Sheesh!!

Boo

The 410 was an option machine, you could add or subtract the pair of 13mm in the rear - it was simply a blister that was added so the barrel sticks out, remove the blister and you get a flat panel.

There are so many weapon packages I can't even start to only wish we could have 20% of the total packages.

[Volron]

The 410 was an option machine, you could add or subtract the pair of 13mm in the rear - it was simply a blister that was added so the barrel sticks out, remove the blister and you get a flat panel.

There are so many weapon packages I can't even start to only wish we could have 20% of the total packages.

I am hoping we get the BK5 for it.

[morfiend]

Did 410 come with option of no rear firing guns? In any case, I'm about to start flinging mashed potatos with gravy like its animal house if we don't get this bird soon!!

At least post some pics...tease me good and proper. This stuff about wing loading, slats and big round things like engines, big ol' tightly wrapped May West type gun packages are just making me shiver. Sheesh!!

Boo

  Boo,

   There's an extensive thread about the 410,Moot included most if not all the optiona available.

    Might be worth a search!