B25- H

[1sum41]

I have a question. I recently was helping the crew of Barbie III with their B25-H. I was sitting in the right seat as we taxied it to the Airshow area and I had all the controls yolk rudder pedals the whole bit. Today in game I jumped into the B25-H and there is no right seat! no controls or anything? I know i'm slow to pick this up, but is there a reason for this?

[RedBull1]

I have a question. I recently was helping the crew of Barbie III with their B25-H. I was sitting in the right seat as we taxied it to the Airshow area and I had all the controls yolk rudder pedals the whole bit. Today in game I jumped into the B25-H and there is no right seat! no controls or anything? I know i'm slow to pick this up, but is there a reason for this?

Im a barbie girl, in a B...25!

cheese its

[lyric1]

They did not have them at first.
Crew members did not like the idea pilot dead? All dead.
So copilot added to aircraft.

[Ack-Ack]

I read somewhere that not all B-25Hs had a right seat, sometimes the crew would remove it.  

ack-ack

[Guppy35]

Barbie was a stateside trainer and had the two seat set up.  Combat B25H did not.  They went back to 2 pilots with the J

[lyric1]

Barbie was a stateside trainer and had the two seat set up.  Combat B25H did not.  They went back to 2 pilots with the J

There is some exceptions where they added them back in on combat aircraft.

[1sum41]

Thanks for all the replies!

They did not have them at first.
Crew members did not like the idea pilot dead? All dead.
So copilot added to aircraft.

that makes sense.

[Guppy35]

There is some exceptions where they added them back in on combat aircraft.

5th AF leaders didn't like the lack of co-pilot so that may have had something to do with it.  That being said, Barbie II is a stateside bird that was a trainer which is why she has the two seats

[lyric1]

5th AF leaders didn't like the lack of co-pilot so that may have had something to do with it. 

You got it

[earl1937]

You got it

In my years in the USAF, I did some instrument instructing in the "J" model while in the reserves, mostly safety pilot time, but in talking with some of the old guys, Air Force tired of trying to teach non-pilot flight engineers or Navigators how to make an emergency landing on 1 engine. I think they lost 3 or 4 at Kessler AFB in Mississippi trying to train emergency "pilots" in case the aircraft commander was KIA or injured beyond help in landing the "bird" Don't know how accurate those stories were, as time sometimes "embellishes" the true facts. I think "wiser" heads pevailed and they added the co-pilot as being as neccessary as the nose wheel.