Author Topic: BOATs (NOT SUBS NOT SHIPS)  (Read 2294 times)

Offline Dover

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Re: BOATs (NOT SUBS NOT SHIPS)
« Reply #15 on: April 24, 2012, 11:42:45 AM »
ok so i did a little research and most of the vessels we currently have in the CV groups would be heavy cruiser and battle ships
these are over 10000 tons (usualy around like 10000 to 30000) so what i would ask is that anything 10000 tons or under would be usable which would be classes of

Frigates, destroyer escorts and sloops are very similar craft. They generally have anti-submarine capabilities similar to (or superior to) a destroyer, but lack a destroyer’s speed and armament, and may be considered to be destroyers that are specially adapted for anti-submarine operations
obviously subs aren't included in this but these ships have guns and armaments and other uses

A monitor may be defined as:
“A surface vessel of war fitted with a gun above 8 inches (203 mm) in calibre and intended for use in a shore bombardment role.”

this is useful could be used for destroying bases or towns

A torpedoboat may be defined as:
“A surface vessel of war whose main armament is torpedoes, and is intended to travel at sea with the battlefleet to attack major enemy warships.”

Destroyers are defined in the 1930 London Treaty as:
“Surface vessels of war, the standard displacement of which is greater than 600 toms (610 metric tons) and does not exceed 1,850 tons (1,880 metric tons), and with a gun not above 5.1 inch (130 mm) calibre. Vessels that are designed for a speed of less than 30 knots, do not carry torpedoes, and do not mount more than four guns above 3 inch (76 mm) calibre are not considered to be destroyers.”

light Cruisers were usually armed with torpedo tubes, and often are fitted with facilities for carrying one to three floatplanes. They usually had a top speed of around 30 knots, were designed to mix speed with range, endurance and firepower, and were expected to be able to out-run any ship they can’t out-fight.

Pocket battleships may best be thought of as large cruisers with big guns. They have a typical battleship-type armament (several large main guns mounted in turrets fore and aft, with cruiser-style guns mounted port and starboard adjacent to the superstructure), moderate speed (25 to 30 knots), and cruiser-type displacement (around 10,000 tons).

all these are usefull and could be fun and are armored in some way the smaller boats like the german one posted earlier all for it too but what i really want is sea battles on these bigger maps with a ton of water

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Re: BOATs (NOT SUBS NOT SHIPS)
« Reply #16 on: April 24, 2012, 11:47:07 AM »
Sharing research is a fun and rewarding hobby.  :D

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Re: BOATs (NOT SUBS NOT SHIPS)
« Reply #17 on: April 24, 2012, 12:39:22 PM »
landing craft as i said in the first post would be nice too

forget the LCi's droping troops at most bases not usefull but

LCT's that land tanks or ducks or LCF (flak carriers) or LCG (gun ships for landing)

quick short info on the types i think would be cool

The Fairmile H Landing Craft Support (Large) had armour added to its wooden hull and a turret with an anti-tank gun fitted. The LCS(L) Mark 1, had a Daimler armoured car turret with its QF 2–pdr (40 mm) gun. The Mark 2 had a QF 6–pdr (57 mm) anti–tank gun.
The American Landing Craft Support was larger, each armed with a 3-inch gun, various smaller guns, and ten MK7 rocket launchers

The Landing Craft Gun (LCG) was another conversion of the LCT, intended to give supporting fire to the landing. Apart from the Oerlikon armament of a normal LCT, each LCG(Medium) had two British Army 25 pounder gun-howitzers in amoured mountings, while LCG(L)3 and LCG(L)4 both had two 4.7 inch naval guns.[6]Crewing was similar to the LCF. LCGs played a very important part in the Walcheren operations in October 1944.

Of a similar size was the Landing Craft Tank, which could carry up to 4 tanks or other vehicles. These had a ramp at the front which was dropped for the vehicles to get ashore. Behind the ramp was an open space known as the Tank Deck. There were several different designs and sizes varied.

The next step was the Landing Ship Tank. This carried more vehicles than the LCT (20 in the US-built versions) and had normal looking bows, although the bows were actually formed by doors which were opened for the unloading ramp to drop. Fully loaded, these displaced more than 3,000 tons, rather more than any Royal Navy destroyers of the period.

Landing Craft, Mechanized were larger (36 tons), capable of carrying one small tank

great website on them http://ww2lct.org/frames.htm
and  http://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/USN/ships/ships-ls.html

I'ld really like to get some feedback from someone from AH on if this is even possible or probable

Offline SDGhalo

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Re: BOATs (NOT SUBS NOT SHIPS)
« Reply #18 on: April 27, 2012, 05:17:12 PM »
if your adding boats i got two candidates 

the river class frigate
Type

Frigate

 Displacement

1370 BRT

 Length

301 feet

Complement

140 men

 Armament

Original design;
 2 x 4inch guns (2x1)
 10 x 20m guns (2x2,6x1)

 Max speed

20 knots

 Engines

2 shaft Reciprocating (4 cyl. V.T.E.)
HMS Cam, HMS Chelmer, HMS Ettrick, HMS Helmsdale and HMS Tweed 2 shaft Geared Turbines
 
Power

I.H.P. 5.500
HMS Cam, HMS Chelmer, HMS Ettrick, HMS Helmsdale and HMS Tweed S.H.P. 6.500



or why not a flower class corvette


Type
Corvette

Displacement
925 BRT

Length
205 feet (oa)

Complement
85 men

Armament
 1 4" gun
 1 2pdr AA
 4 .303" MG AA
 
Max speed
16 knots

Engines
Reciprocating engine, 1 shaft

Power
2750 HP


Offline Full Metal Jug

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Re: BOATs (NOT SUBS NOT SHIPS)
« Reply #19 on: April 28, 2012, 07:59:42 AM »
How about the DD Tanks? DD Shermans? I tell you what the Jeep could kill the hell out of'em in the water.



Material on the outside is canvas, pretty simple.

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