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Offline eagl

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Awesome F-15C video - 2011 Raytheon trophy winners
« on: April 28, 2012, 09:02:03 PM »
This vid was put together for the 67FS, 2011 Raytheon trophy winner for best USAF air to air squadron (F-15C).



The video is utterly authentic except the HUD shots are of course dumbed down to a simple gun reticle.  But the comm is real.

If anyone asks why I kept flying fighters after I injured my back, I'll just send them a link to this video.  It pretty much says it all.
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Re: Awesome F-15C video - 2011 Raytheon trophy winners
« Reply #1 on: April 28, 2012, 09:05:43 PM »
Thanks for posting  :aok


Do you know of all of those videos were of the 67FS, or just made for them?
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Re: Awesome F-15C video - 2011 Raytheon trophy winners
« Reply #2 on: April 28, 2012, 09:16:50 PM »
Look at one thing in the video - there is a great shot of one guy totally leaned over to the side twisted around looking up and back over his shoulder.  You gotta do that or you'll get your butt kicked but it is also why almost ever fighter pilot I know has a bad back.  6 to 9 G's twisted around like that = popped lumbar disc, been there done that.

That's also why I used to gripe a bit about the view system back in the CK / WB days.  Cockpit mobility under G's = life, a good reason to go to the gym.  I could take 7.5 G's sustained twisted around like that, and keep full vision and control of hands/feet to keep flying the plane.  In the T-37 without a G-suit, I used to do that up to around 6.5 Gs even wearing a big heavy chute on my back instead of having it packed in the seat.  So that's why I gripe about what I consider "early" grayout/blackouts, because I used to do it for a living and my G tolerance in real life was better than what the game let me do.  If a T-37 student couldn't take 5 Gs without graying out (no G-suit), we'd wash his butt out for lack of adaptation.  With the G-suit, our students will sometimes go out and pull over 6 Gs just because they can.

One thing I wish AH would model was a difference in symmetric and assymetric G tolerance for aircraft damage.  A plane that can take 7.0 Gs symmetrical will start to bend around 5 Gs if the plane is rolling.  Assymetric Gs (rolling while pulling lots of Gs) ought to take off a wingtip or aileron in the game, at around 2-3 Gs below the normal failure loading.  I don't think the game models this.
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Re: Awesome F-15C video - 2011 Raytheon trophy winners
« Reply #3 on: April 28, 2012, 09:33:06 PM »
Does the F-15 flight computer automatically put in rudder?

I was told that F-16s do.

About the video though, that is just freaking awesome. You guys are the luckiest people alive and I dreamed and still do dream of joining your ranks but unfortunately never will.
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Re: Awesome F-15C video - 2011 Raytheon trophy winners
« Reply #4 on: April 28, 2012, 09:38:29 PM »
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  In 2005 i visited my best friend who was stationed at RAF LakenHeath and spent a day watching 492, 493rd and 494 squads do everyday ops,  watching the E's light the burners on takeoff and shake the ground (we were 50yrds from the active runway)  I also got to go into the 493rds  personal bar in which they had a piece of a Mig 25 that was one of 4 shot down by members of the 493rd in a 72 hour span. I got to tour all of their offices, everything.  Even got a little time in their simulator at Lakenheath which is an E model, i figured the flaps woulda been a lever but if memory serves me right its just a switch down by the throttle, i was also suprised how to light the burners by pushing the throttle over a little bump when at full throttle.
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Re: Awesome F-15C video - 2011 Raytheon trophy winners
« Reply #5 on: April 28, 2012, 11:36:59 PM »
Love later in the fight the pilot leaves one pipe in burner and drops the right to idle then stomps the rudder pedal.

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Re: Awesome F-15C video - 2011 Raytheon trophy winners
« Reply #6 on: April 29, 2012, 01:30:50 AM »
Wish they would have used the original Bad Company song instead of that remake junk.
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Re: Awesome F-15C video - 2011 Raytheon trophy winners
« Reply #7 on: April 29, 2012, 03:25:26 AM »
Awesome vid.

Hey Eagl, what's with the control stick at 7:15 looking like the Suncom stick and the one at 7:34 looking like..well, some old kind of stick with only a trim hat on it. Is that just some stock footage spliced in you think, or do F15's have varying sticks depending on age/model/etc.

Also, I wondered what you thought of the center stick vs the side stick like in the F16/F22/F35?  Do you think it is easier on your body not having to jerk it around your own arm and elbow by having it at the side instead of the middle of your body?

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Re: Awesome F-15C video - 2011 Raytheon trophy winners
« Reply #8 on: April 29, 2012, 05:00:53 AM »
Hey Eagl, what's with the control stick at 7:15 looking like the Suncom stick and the one at 7:34 looking like..well, some old kind of stick with only a trim hat on it. Is that just some stock footage spliced in you think, or do F15's have varying sticks depending on age/model/etc.

Also, I wondered what you thought of the center stick vs the side stick like in the F16/F22/F35?  Do you think it is easier on your body not having to jerk it around your own arm and elbow by having it at the side instead of the middle of your body?

I think one stick is in the front seat and the other is in the back seat.  Either that, or one of the birds had been through an upgrade program.  Not positive on that one though.

The center stick was fine with me because it meant I had a direct hydraulic link to the flight controls in the event that something happened to the digital flight controls.  With a side-stick, you're just giving your vote and the plane moves the controls for you.  Hornet and Eagle drivers can directly move the flight controls via mechanical linkage if the CAS fails.  Both setups have ergonomic benefits and drawbacks.  With the stick on the side, twisting away from the controls means having to reach farther to keep ahold of the stick.  So there are plusses and minuses to both setups.
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Re: Awesome F-15C video - 2011 Raytheon trophy winners
« Reply #9 on: April 29, 2012, 05:04:45 AM »
Does the F-15 flight computer automatically put in rudder?

I was told that F-16s do.

About the video though, that is just freaking awesome. You guys are the luckiest people alive and I dreamed and still do dream of joining your ranks but unfortunately never will.
 :salute

The CAS in an eagle does some control blending to counteract adverse yaw, yes.  It also reduces aileron movement and increases rudder movement when the control stick is held aft.  The F-15 CAS is more mechanical than the F-16 however, so you can trick it into making the plane flip around pretty dramatically.  That's why F-15 pilots know how to use their feet and F-16 pilots don't.  When we get former eagle and viper drivers here at Sheppard, during T-6 PIT we sometimes have to tell the eagle drivers to use less rudder and we have to teach the viper drivers what a rudder is and then spend months convincing them that using the rudder pedals isn't a bad thing when sitting behind a 1000hp turboprop.
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Re: Awesome F-15C video - 2011 Raytheon trophy winners
« Reply #10 on: April 29, 2012, 09:37:25 AM »
WOW!

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Re: Awesome F-15C video - 2011 Raytheon trophy winners
« Reply #11 on: April 29, 2012, 10:08:51 AM »
That is a beautiful airplane. Sadly tho we were getting them in service at the time I was never stationed at a base that had them. They mostly went to Germany and maybe England.

Now Phantoms I saw by the truckloads. What I remember most about the F4 is the smoke that came out of their engines. You could see the dang things 50 miles away. Either fighter looks like the Michelin man blimp on radar however. Tho I think the Eagle might have a little more life in her then most think. I remember what a world beater she was when she first came out, one of the elite systems that won the cold War.
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Re: Awesome F-15C video - 2011 Raytheon trophy winners
« Reply #12 on: April 29, 2012, 10:16:21 AM »
That was awesome!! As a kid we were stationed at Kadena, 82-85, my stepdad was an electrician on the F-15s.






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Re: Awesome F-15C video - 2011 Raytheon trophy winners
« Reply #13 on: April 29, 2012, 12:14:53 PM »
Love me some Eagle porn!  Thanks for posting.   :x :aok :salute
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Re: Awesome F-15C video - 2011 Raytheon trophy winners
« Reply #14 on: April 29, 2012, 01:47:32 PM »
Awesome indeed! Thanks eagl
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