Awesome F-15C video - 2011 Raytheon trophy winners

[TwinBoom]

7:30 looks like he burned one eng while other was idle to aid his roll break?

[Seanaldinho]

The CAS in an eagle does some control blending to counteract adverse yaw, yes.  It also reduces aileron movement and increases rudder movement when the control stick is held aft.  The F-15 CAS is more mechanical than the F-16 however, so you can trick it into making the plane flip around pretty dramatically.  That's why F-15 pilots know how to use their feet and F-16 pilots don't.  When we get former eagle and viper drivers here at Sheppard, during T-6 PIT we sometimes have to tell the eagle drivers to use less rudder and we have to teach the viper drivers what a rudder is and then spend months convincing them that using the rudder pedals isn't a bad thing when sitting behind a 1000hp turboprop.

We did the same at my glider club when a viper stick showed up. Which in gliders if you dont use the rudder your a deadman.

[RTHolmes]

fantastic

[curry1]

Eagl if you come across any other videos that are a tenth as good as this one it would be a crime not to share it.

[Brooke]

Excellent.  Thanks for posting the link. <S>

Yep, it is interesting see the one pilot chop right throttle and stomp right rudder when the opposing jet was closing in.

[rogwar]

I understand the F15 has been upgraded a lot over the years and still one heck of a fighter, particularly BVR with the slammer.

[RTHolmes]

If anyone asks why I kept flying fighters after I injured my back, I'll just send them a link to this video.  It pretty much says it all.

I noticed the twisting in the vid, but never thought about doing that while pulling Gs before, thanks for your glimpse into RW pilot suff

there seems to be a fair bit of movement fore/aft in the harness, presumably theres almost no movement up/down? I always imagined being strapped in racecar tight to all the seat in a fighter.

[eagl]

I noticed the twisting in the vid, but never thought about doing that while pulling Gs before, thanks for your glimpse into RW pilot suff

there seems to be a fair bit of movement fore/aft in the harness, presumably theres almost no movement up/down? I always imagined being strapped in racecar tight to all the seat in a fighter.

The lap belt is tightened pretty tight to keep the pilot in the seat if he has to pull negative Gs or hits turbulence, and to anchor himself at the hips for leverage so he can make consistent flight control movements.  The shoulder straps are on inertial reels so if you lean forward first to give yourself a lot of slack, you can twist almost all the way around even though your hips are still square and strapped down in the seat.  When turning really far right it isn't uncommon for the pilot to switch to flying with his left hand while pushing back on the canopy rail with his right hand.

It's all rather punishing, and the weak of body or mind should really not even give it a try.  Even the toughest fighter pilots end up with back or neck injuries nowadays and the easiest way to lose a dogfight is to get tired and give up.  That "I give up" moment comes really fast for new or half-hearted pilots when pulling Gs.

[morfiend]

The lap belt is tightened pretty tight to keep the pilot in the seat if he has to pull negative Gs or hits turbulence, and to anchor himself at the hips for leverage so he can make consistent flight control movements.  The shoulder straps are on inertial reels so if you lean forward first to give yourself a lot of slack, you can twist almost all the way around even though your hips are still square and strapped down in the seat.  When turning really far right it isn't uncommon for the pilot to switch to flying with his left hand while pushing back on the canopy rail with his right hand.

It's all rather punishing, and the weak of body or mind should really not even give it a try.  Even the toughest fighter pilots end up with back or neck injuries nowadays and the easiest way to lose a dogfight is to get tired and give up.  That "I give up" moment comes really fast for new or half-hearted pilots when pulling Gs.

 Eagl,

   I know a couple of fighter jocks and your quite right about the back and neck issues!   Now if HTC could find away to model pilot fatigue from pulling G's,that would be a game changer,however I have no idea how it could be done.


  Oh and I guess it doesnt help you much if you have to punch out either.........






   

[curry1]

Now if HTC could find away to model pilot fatigue from pulling G's,that would be a game changer,however I have no idea how it could be done.

Make everyone attach electrodes to their body that would flex their muscles when turning.  Eventually people would stop turning because of the pain.

But yeah good point would be cool to see something actually implemented.

Maybe make everyone go to Texas and do a physical fitness test that would then be used to make you pilot better or worse LOL

[phatzo]

Make everyone attach electrodes to their body that would flex their muscles when turning.  Eventually people would stop turning because of the pain.

But yeah good point would be cool to see something actually implemented.

Maybe make everyone go to Texas and do a physical fitness test that would then be used to make you pilot better or worse LOL

You sir are an idiot, but that's why I like you. Trying to figure out how to hook electronic muscle simulators to my joystick now.

[B4Buster]

eagl, have you been to Red Flag? I watched a segment about it on Youtube. It looks intense!

[eagl]

eagl, have you been to Red Flag? I watched a segment about it on Youtube. It looks intense!

I flew in 2 Red Flags, one flown from Nellis and one where we flew down from Mountain Home every night.  They served their purpose quite well and when my squadron deployed we found the battle rhythm to be no harsher than what we'd experienced at Red Flag.

[B4Buster]

I flew in 2 Red Flags, one flown from Nellis and one where we flew down from Mountain Home every night.  They served their purpose quite well and when my squadron deployed we found the battle rhythm to be no harsher than what we'd experienced at Red Flag.

Is it a yearly event? And from what I understand, you aren't let loose into an active duty squadron until you've participated in a Red Flag. Is that the case?

[cpxxx]

Amazing video, I connected my laptop to my HD TV to watch. I was entranced. It really gives a sense of what flying is really like and by extension it must give an impression of what flying an F15 must feel like. If eagl who has been there, thinks so then I'm hooked.

My last dream is to fly in some form of fast jet like the F15. It won't happen ever but this is close.

I've asked the guys to attach a Gopro to my bird to try and put together a video of my flying year. But after seeing this, why bother.