C205: The Good, the Bad and the Ugly

[Krusty]

Actually, it's far more like the 109F than the 109G, and the G2 out climbs it easily.

Any 109 really outclasses it. It's definitely a vertical fighter, using what speed and dive it can get to position for a shot, rather than turning in circles. However, it doesn't really dive any better than a 109. They both will lock up, and I find the 109 easily trims out better than the C2 when getting out of such a lockup.


If you want a 109, you'll have to fly a 109, since the C2 really won't replace it. I would say the firepower is somewhat comparable to a Fw, but there the comparison stops. I know folks like to say it's like the 109,or like the 190, or it's halfway between both, but in my not-so-humble opinion on the matter it's really neither. It's another world entirely. You can't fly it like a 190 or a 109. Just gotta fly it like a Macchi. 

[Debrody]

you might be right, Krusty... post deleted

[Krusty]

Debrody, I read it to say he is stating both 109s are better, not the other way around. The phrasing is somewhat confusing, though.

[morfiend]

 I used to think of the C205 as the Italian Stallion and flew it much like a 51.  It's a pretty good Efighter and has great snapshot potential.

   Personally I rarely used the flaps except in a verticle turn and even then only if I pushed it to far and got too slow. By the time you're slow enough to drop flaps in a turn fight you will be meat on the table so I dont recommend that.

   It's a pretty good plane when flown inside it's envelope and was a plane I flew alot back about 6 or 7 years ago.



   

[Torquila]

C205, lol

[Krusty]

I take it from your post you don't fly it. That's fine. To each their own.

[pembquist]

I'm not very good but I fly the 205 a lot.  I don't know if its because worse players fly p51, k4, la7 but I don't dread meeting up with them.  I hate encountering spitfires but that is partly due to some psychological block and not such good ability.  I feel like I can have the advantage but if I don't get them on the first pass its all downhill.  Everything else feels like I have a chance (slightly delusional.)(Now that I think of it LW corsairs are a problem, but that might just be pilot skill or that they tend to pack so much E at speed.)  Burning the wing tanks gets you above 15k and speed at alt helps with the fuel tankage situation.  Some body told me they shoot off the MG rounds and just use the cannon, don't know.  It has lotsa bullets but I find that I have to lead so much that most of my successful shots are basically blind but cause its got lotsa bullets you don't really have to worry about wasting ammo.  I think it dives well.  It always feels nose heavy to me and feels clunky when it gets slow.  It would be a great bnz er in the right hands but I always freak out at high closure rates and get too impatient to rebuild e between passes.  I can't speak with authority but it feels like it sheds E faster than other planes so I try to avoid flat turns unless it seems like the other pilot is weak and you can do that rolling stalling in the weeds disorient thing that works on some people.  It works better faster.

[Shuffler]

I've noticed they fall apart under close inspection through the site of my P-38.


All in all I think the C205 is a pretty good plane.

[cobia38]

I've noticed they fall apart under close inspection through the BOMB site of my B-38.


All in all I think the C205 is a pretty good plane.

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[FireDrgn]

The 205 is very stable in a dive great ammo load out.    It can be flown very effectively using its dive and climb capabilities.  It is a very underestimated plane imo.     it makes for a great fight.

I think guppy5 once said you fly the g down hill and the j and L up hill. Its a interesting concept.     I think the 205 is most effective when flown both down hill and up. 


     

[Wiley]

I've been putting some time in in this plane lately.  I don't find I fly it 'like' anything really, it handles significantly different from everything else.

In my hands, it does ok at high speed, but I wind up using trim to save me from compression a lot.  I can't stallfight it for beans at low speed, but at middle speeds, say 130 up to compression, it turns quite well.  It is at its best in the vertical.

Wiley.

[Rich52]

The only problem with it is it isnt flown more. Its an interesting and capable airframe that is fun to fly. Its always had a K/D in the 1.20+ range.

[Krusty]

Personally I don't find that to be a problem. I don't mind flying the less-common planes in the arena. In fact I rather like standing out a little.

[Butcher]

The only problem with it is it isnt flown more. Its an interesting and capable airframe that is fun to fly. Its always had a K/D in the 1.20+ range.

My Biggest problem is not having the drop tank option, its legs are pretty short - and a good 2-3 sector flight can eat up your fuel in a heartbeat.

99% of time you will land with no fuel and half an ammo load.

[Krusty]

It cruises pretty well when you throttle it back. I can get pretty long sorties out of it. I agree I'd love to see the DTs, but historically they just didn't play much of a part. Because of that we may never get that addition.

That's one reason I'd enjoy seeing the G.55: It had longer internal range than the C.205 did.