Is this a good price to pay for this stuff?

[james]

Been a while since i bought a desktop. Want to get something alot better than the current 2.6 quad core. I don't know my way around processors and motherboards anymore though. Any advice would be great!

CAS:NZXT Tempest 210 Mid-Tower Gaming Case (Black Color [+0])
CD:24X Double Layer Dual Format DVD+-R/+-RW + CD-R/RW Drive (BLACK COLOR)
COOLANT:Standard Coolant
CPU:Intel® Core™ i7-3820 Quad-Core 3.60 GHz 10MB Intel Smart Cache LGA2011 (All Venom OC Certified)
CS_FAN:Default case fans
FAN:Asetek 510LC Liquid Cooling System 120MM Radiator & Fan (Enhanced Cooling Performance + Extreme Silent at 20dBA) (Dual Standard 120MM Fans (Push-Pull) [+9])
HDD:2TB (2TBx1) SATA-III 6.0Gb/s 64MB Cache 7200RPM HDD (Single Drive)
IUSB:Internal USB 3.0 4-Port Hub [+29]
MEMORY:8GB (2GBx4) DDR3/1600MHz Quad Channel Memory (Corsair or Major Brand)
MOTHERBOARD:* (3-Way SLI Support) Gigabyte X79-UD3 Intel X79 Chipset Quad Channel DDR3 ATX Mainboard w/ UEFI DualBIOS, Dolby Home Theater 7.1 Audio, GbLAN, USB3.0, SATA-III RAID, 4 Gen3 PCIe X16, 2 PCIe X1 & 1 PCI
NETWORK:Onboard Gigabit LAN Network
OS:Microsoft® Windows 7 Home Premium [+104] (64-bit Edition)
POWERSUPPLY:1,000 Watts - Standard Power Supply - SLI/CrossFireX Ready  [+26]
SOFT1:Free Microsoft® Office® 2010 STARTER EDITION (Reduced-Functionality versions of Word and Excel that include advertising) [+0]
SOUND:HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO
USBX:NZXT Internal USB 6-PORT Expansion Module [+19]
VIDEO:NVIDIA GeForce GTX 670 2GB 16X PCIe 3.0 Video Card [+64] (Major Brand Powered by NVIDIA)
PRICE:(+1579)

[Masherbrum]

Building that yourself, you could save about $400.    You could also get a superior PSU and a better GPU.   

Cyberpower has become as bad as Alienware.

[MaSonZ]

Building that yourself, you could save about $400.    You could also get a superior PSU and a better GPU.   

Cyberpower has become as bad as Alienware.

a 670 is pretty good, no? I'm not on par with nVidia cards, so I dont know much, but I know a lone 680 is overkill for just about any game out right now...

[guncrasher]

contact TD, his computers are legendary in aces high.  he'll build you a better computer.

http://tdcomputersystems.com/


semp

[Rich52]

That sounds like a whole lot of computer for $1500 and change. The processor, MB, and graphics engine alone........where are you getting it? I might buy one.

[MaSonZ]

but rich,

POWERSUPPLY:1,000 Watts - Standard Power Supply - SLI/CrossFireX Ready  [+26], COOLANT:Standard Coolant

standard powersupply is probably a cheapy with >1 12v rail....and the only thing to suggest the watercooling is "Standard coolant" if it even means water cooling. Would be nice to know the pump and radiator for the water cooling if it has it, as well as whats liquid cooled, what the diameter of the tubes are and the water blocks, no?

[gyrene81]

Mason, what specs there are for that cooling system...
http://www.asetek.com/desktop/cpu-coolers/510lc.html

that power supply and video card are more than adequate...you would only really need a 700-800 watt psu, and that video card will run 3 monitors easy. personally i'd go with the radeon 6950 2gb and save $230.

if you're going to get water cooling, may as well get a cpu that is overclockable and for gaming you only really need a quad core. drop down to one of the crossfire/sli ready z77 mobos and an i5 2550k or 3570k.

*edit* forewarning, cyberpower support is a bit flaky. if you do have an issue getting someone on the phone is almost impossible, and they will issue an rma pickup for the entire system. it takes 2 weeks turnaround to get your system back once you ship it to them.

[1Cane]

I would go with the I5 2550k and the 2gb 6950'.  I currently have a I5 2500k with a 6850 card and it will run three monitors with everything set at the Max.  I bought mine from cyber power and I am satisfied.  The tech problems that I had were self induced and their support was good but I wouldn't say great.

I live about 60 miles from cyber power and that certainly was a factor in my purchase.  Before you buy I certainly would talk to TD and you might be able to get a better feel on  what to buy and maybe even save a few bucks.  Good luck!

[Masherbrum]

Mason, what specs there are for that cooling system...
http://www.asetek.com/desktop/cpu-coolers/510lc.html

that power supply and video card are more than adequate...you would only really need a 700-800 watt psu, and that video card will run 3 monitors easy. personally i'd go with the radeon 6950 2gb and save $230.

if you're going to get water cooling, may as well get a cpu that is overclockable and for gaming you only really need a quad core. drop down to one of the crossfire/sli ready z77 mobos and an i5 2550k or 3570k.

*edit* forewarning, cyberpower support is a bit flaky. if you do have an issue getting someone on the phone is almost impossible, and they will issue an rma pickup for the entire system. it takes 2 weeks turnaround to get your system back once you ship it to them.

While they may be adequate.....you can sure as hell get a Seagate for the prices they are charging regardless of Wattage.   Same goes for the video cards.    My point still?   Why would you overpay, when you can get better for less?

[Debrody]

What you would like to do with that computer?

You are buying one kickbutt card what can run any existing game maxed out (and possibly most of the games in the next 2 years) yet you are buying an 1000W PSU and a 3-way sli supporting motherboard...
To building a cheap yet kicker machine, the key is the balance between the components.

What i would do:
-a 600W PSU is enough for every possible single card solution, IF you are buying a brand one. I would recommend Corsair.
-a higher end single-GPU system (GTX670-680, HD7950-7970) will run any game maxed out for a long time. SLI or Crossfire wont give you any serious advantage since most of the monitors are limited to 60Hz also theese technologies arent working with 100% effiency. Maybe 60. You dont have to buy a sli-support motherboard too.
In the other hand, if you are planning to run multiple monitors, i would recommend a dual-GPU solution, preferably a GTX690.
-i am not a fan of the liquid cooling, just as the double fans installed on the same radiator. A 50 bucks brand air cooler can keep any CPU under 50-60 celsius, even with a powerful overclock, and do this totally silent. So... you can save some money and not losing any functionality here.
-also, building the system by yourself can save a load of money and can give you the "i made this" feeling.

[gyrene81]

While they may be adequate.....you can sure as hell get a Seagate for the prices they are charging regardless of Wattage.   Same goes for the video cards.    My point still?   Why would you overpay, when you can get better for less?

seagate power supply?    i know you didn't actually make any real comparisons just by the b.s. you're spouting. and i hate to be the one to break it to you but the thermaltake and corsair power supplies cyberpower offers are just as good as seasonic. i'd like to see your better gtx670 2gb video card for less than $325.

here, i'll do the pricing for you based on the system i would recommend for the op...

cpu - Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000 BX80637I53570K = $239.99
mobo - GIGABYTE GA-Z77X-D3H LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard = $152.86
case - COOLER MASTER HAF 912 RC-912-KKN1 Black SECC/ ABS Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case = $64.98
ram - CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9B = $49.99
gpu - EVGA 02G-P4-2670-KR GeForce GTX 670 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card = $399.99 (out of stock)
alt gpu - XFX Double D HD-695X-CDFC Radeon HD 6950 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card with Eyefinity = $259.99
psu - Thermaltake TR2 RX 750W Bronze W0382RU ATX 12V v2.3 / EPS 12V v2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply = $89.99
hdd 1 - Kingston HyperX 3K SH103S3/120G 2.5" 120GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) (Stand-Alone Drive) = $139.99
hdd 2 - Western Digital Caviar Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive = $119.99
cooling - CORSAIR CWCH60 Hydro Series H60 High Performance Liquid CPU Cooler = $64.99
cd/dvd-rw - ASUS DVD Burner Black SATA Model DRW-24B3ST/BLK/G/AS = $29.97
os - Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit - OEM = $99.99

diy (w/radeon 6950) = $1312.73 shipped
cyberpower gamer xtreme 2000  (w/radeon 6950)= $1381.00 shipped w/3yr warranty

there goes someone's theory...

[Rich52]

but rich,

POWERSUPPLY:1,000 Watts - Standard Power Supply - SLI/CrossFireX Ready  [+26], COOLANT:Standard Coolant

standard powersupply is probably a cheapy with >1 12v rail....and the only thing to suggest the watercooling is "Standard coolant" if it even means water cooling. Would be nice to know the pump and radiator for the water cooling if it has it, as well as whats liquid cooled, what the diameter of the tubes are and the water blocks, no?

As it stands its adequate. For a build in the $1500 range its a deal. 1,000 watts is fine and power is one of the cheaper upgrades. Im not up on the latest but believe the MB, chip , and graphics, are pretty much leading edge for now.

Well he never responded back so it might be pure fantasy. It didnt sound legit actually.

a 670 is pretty good, no? I'm not on par with nVidia cards, so I dont know much, but I know a lone 680 is overkill for just about any game out right now...

I bought a Lone 580 back when it was overkill and I never "killed" anything. I just got flawless performance in every game I played.

[Masherbrum]

seagate power supply?    i know you didn't actually make any real comparisons just by the b.s. you're spouting. and i hate to be the one to break it to you but the thermaltake and corsair power supplies cyberpower offers are just as good as seasonic. i'd like to see your better gtx670 2gb video card for less than $325.

here, i'll do the pricing for you based on the system i would recommend for the op...

cpu - Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000 BX80637I53570K = $239.99
mobo - GIGABYTE GA-Z77X-D3H LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard = $152.86
case - COOLER MASTER HAF 912 RC-912-KKN1 Black SECC/ ABS Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case = $64.98
ram - CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9B = $49.99
gpu - EVGA 02G-P4-2670-KR GeForce GTX 670 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card = $399.99 (out of stock)
alt gpu - XFX Double D HD-695X-CDFC Radeon HD 6950 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card with Eyefinity = $259.99
psu - Thermaltake TR2 RX 750W Bronze W0382RU ATX 12V v2.3 / EPS 12V v2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply = $89.99
hdd 1 - Kingston HyperX 3K SH103S3/120G 2.5" 120GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) (Stand-Alone Drive) = $139.99
hdd 2 - Western Digital Caviar Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive = $119.99
cooling - CORSAIR CWCH60 Hydro Series H60 High Performance Liquid CPU Cooler = $64.99
cd/dvd-rw - ASUS DVD Burner Black SATA Model DRW-24B3ST/BLK/G/AS = $29.97
os - Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit - OEM = $99.99

diy (w/radeon 6950) = $1312.73 shipped
cyberpower gamer xtreme 2000  (w/radeon 6950)= $1381.00 shipped w/3yr warranty

there goes someone's theory...

I meant seasonic and used cyberpower to build me a pc in 2006.   I had a stick of RAM go bad and shipped to them on a monday, got it back friday of the same week.  However, you can build better for less.   I only had good experiences with their customer service.   With that being said, if you are going to use cyberpower or ibuypower (owned by the same guy), nowadays you might as well go to digital storm.   They use modified silverstone cases for most of their builds and are more reasonable.   But even TD would agree with me in that the OP's pricing is way overpriced.  No theories needed.

Edit:  Gyrene, when it comes to power supplies there is only one brand worth looking at since pc power and cooling is a shell of it's former self.   Thermaltake and Corsair aren't even a thought, since most Corsair's use cheapened internals like OCZ does.   

[Ten60]

I'm not sure if you plan on playing anything much other than AH, but my machine can play BF3 high res at 30+FPS in combat, mmo's at 50+ and AH NEVER below 59.  I paid $1,000 and built it myself.  Those high end video cards are really not worth the extra money.  Youd be better to spend it on a great quad core and mobo set.  Max out your RAM with quad channel and throw in an SSD.  $1,500 is a waste of $$ IMO.

Edit:
Of course I shopped half amazon and half newegg and waited for the right deals, and got my os disc from my University.

[gyrene81]

See Rule #4