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Re: Virus for android phones?
« Reply #60 on: May 30, 2012, 04:11:56 PM »
I think Apple is really showing it's class by using the US customs as their own personal jack booted thugs and their army of copyright lawyers to stop by any means necessary anyone who would dare to make a smart phone. 

Apple: Is it rectangular and have a touch screen?  Then they're infringing on our copyrights.

I'm not an apple fan boy, and its true the Software patent system in the US is a joke, but it all comes down to this...

Apple products = tell me what I can do and have
Android = I tell myself what I want and can do with my phone

Increased freedom == increased responsibility.  There is no such thing as a free lunch.
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Re: Virus for android phones?
« Reply #61 on: May 31, 2012, 12:10:04 AM »
I'm not an apple fan boy, and its true the Software patent system in the US is a joke, but it all comes down to this...

Apple products = tell me what I can do and have
Android = I tell myself what I want and can do with my phone

Increased freedom == increased responsibility.  There is no such thing as a free lunch.


Apple products = gets the job done intuitively and easy, you never need to mess with settings
Android = you need to be a geek just to do simple things. Plugging the thing to USB requires pulling a dropdown menu and choosing between usb modes etc. :) Not for people who just want to use a ready product.
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Re: Virus for android phones?
« Reply #62 on: May 31, 2012, 07:40:41 AM »
Apple products = gets the job done intuitively and easy, you never need to mess with settings
Android = you need to be a geek just to do simple things. Plugging the thing to USB requires pulling a dropdown menu and choosing between usb modes etc. :) Not for people who just want to use a ready product.

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Re: Virus for android phones?
« Reply #63 on: May 31, 2012, 10:26:11 AM »
Lol no quite the contrary. Android market share is large only because there is no Google phone like iPhone. It's virtually all Apples competition combined under one label, the OS.

Have you ever tried to get access to iphone as a hardware developer?

Find out how much it costs and get back to me.

The costs have driven many in my industry to not even attempt to make hardware that interfaces with the Iphone and instead concentrate on the android based phones because one doesn't have to bow down to apple and throw ridiculous amounts of money.

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Re: Virus for android phones?
« Reply #64 on: May 31, 2012, 12:39:56 PM »
Have you ever tried to get access to iphone as a hardware developer?

Find out how much it costs and get back to me.

The costs have driven many in my industry to not even attempt to make hardware that interfaces with the Iphone and instead concentrate on the android based phones because one doesn't have to bow down to apple and throw ridiculous amounts of money.

Apple obviously doesn't want every jack-of-all-trade one man company producing half baked hardware for it. They don't want to degrade the brand like Android has.
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Re: Virus for android phones?
« Reply #65 on: May 31, 2012, 12:42:19 PM »
Apple obviously doesn't want every jack-of-all-trade one man company producing half baked hardware for it. They don't want to degrade the brand like Android has.

Android is far better than apple. That is why it is in greater use. Android has done nothing but get better... not sure what your meaning of degrade is.
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Re: Virus for android phones?
« Reply #66 on: May 31, 2012, 01:16:20 PM »
Apple obviously doesn't want every jack-of-all-trade one man company producing half baked hardware for it. They don't want to degrade the brand like Android has.

This is total BS...
Both Apple and most of the Android hardware is made by the same company, FOXCONN. and yeah, your overpriced apple device was made by borderline slave labor.... so dream on son.
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Re: Virus for android phones?
« Reply #67 on: June 01, 2012, 12:28:09 AM »
Android is far better than apple. That is why it is in greater use. Android has done nothing but get better... not sure what your meaning of degrade is.

LOL! You must be on crack! :D

There are more androids only because android is cheaper to produce and readily available to every chinese low-grade manufacturer known to earth. Apple then again does not license iOS to anyone and produces only the high quality product they do. It makes no difference if it's built in Foxconn - it's the quality control and design process that counts. That's why Apple is the most successfull single phone manufacturer today.

Androids are literally cheap copies. Beware of cheap copies goes the saying :)
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Re: Virus for android phones?
« Reply #68 on: June 01, 2012, 12:49:25 AM »
LOL! You must be on crack! :D

There are more androids only because android is cheaper to produce and readily available to every chinese low-grade manufacturer known to earth. Apple then again does not license iOS to anyone and produces only the high quality product they do. It makes no difference if it's built in Foxconn - it's the quality control and design process that counts. That's why Apple is the most successfull single phone manufacturer today.

Androids are literally cheap copies. Beware of cheap copies goes the saying :)

I have only owned 1 iphone, had to return it.  couldnt make calls with it as it couldnt connect.  took it back to the guy at the store he couldnt figure out what was wrong with it either.  got the droidx.  never looked back.  I still have my original droidx from 2 years ago, have installed countless roms and it took me about 5 minutes to figure out how to root it.  I actually installed a new room about an hour ago as I got tired of the old one.  now it looks like a new phone.  and oh yes, i also can oc that phone and it's so simple to use.  yes there's an app for that :).

I also got rid of all the junk that comes with the phone that I didnt want or need.  I am surprised that you being an a guy who would tweek your system so it doesnt load useless programs would argue for a phone that is loaded with them and you cannot get rid of.


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Re: Virus for android phones?
« Reply #69 on: June 01, 2012, 04:07:13 AM »
I have only owned 1 iphone, had to return it.  couldnt make calls with it as it couldnt connect.  took it back to the guy at the store he couldnt figure out what was wrong with it either.  got the droidx.  never looked back.  I still have my original droidx from 2 years ago, have installed countless roms and it took me about 5 minutes to figure out how to root it.  I actually installed a new room about an hour ago as I got tired of the old one.  now it looks like a new phone.  and oh yes, i also can oc that phone and it's so simple to use.  yes there's an app for that :).

I also got rid of all the junk that comes with the phone that I didnt want or need.  I am surprised that you being an a guy who would tweek your system so it doesnt load useless programs would argue for a phone that is loaded with them and you cannot get rid of.


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Hmm my iPhone has nothing useless on it and I would never even consider spending one second trying to mess with my mobile phone. A phone for me is a tool and I do not want to do any maintenance on it whatsoever if I can avoid it. So far the iPhone has worked perfectly starting from the initial installation.

I had to help my uncle to set up his Nokia N900 - talk about night and day difference. The Nokia setup was cumbersome, buggy and time consuming where the iPhone sets up in no time and basically doing nothing. Same was with Android, when I bought my kid a cheap android phone I regreted the decision the next night when I spent literally hours trying to get it to work. Everything was so clumsy and badly made it wasn't even funny. Like plugging it with usb - the iPhone starts the necessary apps on my mac automatically when I plug it in. Android did nothing, literally, when I plugged it in. Tried plugging it to windows - same thing. Tried plugging it to linux - again nothing. Tried looking for settings which were hidden under horrible mess of menus. Found several usb modes, including developer mode which did nothing to get the phone connected.

Finally I had to give up and read the manual  :O which I never have had to do with an iPhone! Turns out when you plug the usb in, you need to pull a hidden drop-down menu from the top of the screen to activate the connection. Not to mention that even after plugging it, there was no automation whatsoever. No automatic sync of anything, all manual labour. Then there was problems with the wifi setup, poor GPS reception etc. My first and last android purchased phone for sure!
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Re: Virus for android phones?
« Reply #70 on: June 01, 2012, 08:30:18 AM »
Sounds like you got your kid a samsung intercept.  The ONE thing that apple does well is concentrate on making a single mediocre product and marketing the hell out of it.  With android there is a vast spectrum from truly horrible to absolutely magnificent.  Honestly, what did you expect from a product that you described as "cheap"?  Does your iPhone fall within that catagory?

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Re: Virus for android phones?
« Reply #71 on: June 01, 2012, 08:47:02 AM »
LOL! You must be on crack! :D

There are more androids only because android is cheaper to produce and readily available to every chinese low-grade manufacturer known to earth. Apple then again does not license iOS to anyone and produces only the high quality product they do. It makes no difference if it's built in Foxconn - it's the quality control and design process that counts. That's why Apple is the most successfull single phone manufacturer today.

Androids are literally cheap copies. Beware of cheap copies goes the saying :)
Well there went your idea of class right out the window.

Apple chooses to make theirs more expensive not because of cost but because the some sheeple will pay it.

Just like macs used to be the go to for graphics.... but not anymore.

You can be an apple fan. I prefer to use a product that does what I need when I need as I need.


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Re: Virus for android phones?
« Reply #72 on: June 01, 2012, 01:53:15 PM »
Well there went your idea of class right out the window.

Apple chooses to make theirs more expensive not because of cost but because the some sheeple will pay it.

Just like macs used to be the go to for graphics.... but not anymore.

You can be an apple fan. I prefer to use a product that does what I need when I need as I need.


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Shuff, your wasting your time.... if some one on the bbs told you to change your religion would you? yeah so don't expect them to either....
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Re: Virus for android phones?
« Reply #73 on: June 01, 2012, 02:14:10 PM »
Shuff, your wasting your time.... if some one on the bbs told you to change your religion would you? yeah so don't expect them to either....

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Re: Virus for android phones?
« Reply #74 on: June 01, 2012, 04:34:23 PM »
Sounds like you got your kid a samsung intercept.  The ONE thing that apple does well is concentrate on making a single mediocre product and marketing the hell out of it.  With android there is a vast spectrum from truly horrible to absolutely magnificent.  Honestly, what did you expect from a product that you described as "cheap"?  Does your iPhone fall within that catagory?

Gota agree, I spent a lot of time researching before getting my most recent phone, and eventually getting a 50% pitchin for it as a holiday gift (HTC (got to figure that they got some good taste, right?) mytouch 4g slide, best mobile device I've ever had), just wear ear plugs when around a salesman - how many haven't learned that and are still driving cars they hate?

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