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Offline zack1234

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Re: trojans and firwall
« Reply #30 on: May 25, 2012, 08:43:13 AM »
I have enabled "scriptno"
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Re: trojans and firwall
« Reply #31 on: May 25, 2012, 10:52:34 AM »
I have enabled "scriptno"

 Ya but just because you ate all the pies doesnt mean you still cant throw them at it!  Cow pies come to mind!! :devil



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Re: trojans and firwall
« Reply #32 on: May 25, 2012, 10:54:14 AM »
Ya but just because you ate all the pies doesnt mean you still cant throw them at it!  Cow pies come to mind!! :devil



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« Reply #33 on: May 25, 2012, 11:23:25 AM »
Rest in pies

 Anyone seen the movie"the help"????   yum chocolate pie! :O



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Re: trojans and firwall
« Reply #34 on: May 25, 2012, 03:54:21 PM »
That makes no difference.

Nothing beats good AV, something that runs behavioral based protection. Personal firewalls like Windows firewall are a waste of CPU overhead.

That goes without saying. I didnt realize we were writing an all-inclusive safety guide. Anyone on the net without AV doesnt belong on the net.
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Re: trojans and firwall
« Reply #35 on: May 25, 2012, 05:03:03 PM »
this thread reminded me... im over due for my malwarebytes and MSE scan.....  :lol
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Re: trojans and firwall
« Reply #36 on: May 26, 2012, 03:46:51 AM »
I think "Scripno" is a good bit of advice :old:

MSE did not stop Trojan  :old:
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Re: trojans and firwall
« Reply #37 on: May 26, 2012, 12:48:25 PM »
Scriptno and similar products are good advice, indeed.

As for antivirus programs not finding trojans may be due to the long wake-up time of modern nasties. Some of them have been known to sleep half a day... Like my kids...

Several antivirus programs check things only once and then mark them as checked and if there's a sleeping piece of innocent looking code in the temp folder, saying something like "at shutdown download code from this link and run before antivirus starts". The downloaded file may contain instructions similar to "at startup, disable <Brand> antivirus and run this instead".

So, the antivirus may well be good and working, but it can be tricked. Removing temp files after surfing - or, as I do, automate the removal - associated with a script blocker prevents such delayed behaviour quite efficiently without crippling easy surfing too much.
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Re: trojans and firwall
« Reply #38 on: May 26, 2012, 03:18:58 PM »
That goes without saying. I didnt realize we were writing an all-inclusive safety guide. Anyone on the net without AV doesnt belong on the net.

Crikey, I haven't belonged to the net for 5-6 years then! I wonder what I'm doing wrong by not catching a single infection in that time! :D
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Re: trojans and firwall
« Reply #39 on: May 26, 2012, 04:04:09 PM »
Crikey, I haven't belonged to the net for 5-6 years then! I wonder what I'm doing wrong by not catching a single infection in that time! :D

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Re: trojans and firwall
« Reply #40 on: May 26, 2012, 05:48:28 PM »
you dont watch enough pron.


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Quite the contrary. I browsed stumbleupon links today for example. When you browse the right way you don't need AV nor need to worry. I.e. don't use windows and block scripts.
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Re: trojans and firwall
« Reply #41 on: May 26, 2012, 06:26:30 PM »
Quite the contrary. I browsed stumbleupon links today for example. When you browse the right way you don't need AV nor need to worry. I.e. don't use windows and block scripts.

i know seen your posts before.  it was just a joke  :salute.  however you are very knowledgeable in puters but your posts tends to make some people think they have the knowledge to not get a virus.  almost everybody needs an av  there's only a few who dont.  I can probably do without an ava, not because i am knowledgeable, but because I am not stupid enough to fall for most tricks, however i learned by getting tricked to begin with  :D.


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Re: trojans and firwall
« Reply #42 on: May 27, 2012, 02:25:22 AM »
i know seen your posts before.  it was just a joke  :salute.  however you are very knowledgeable in puters but your posts tends to make some people think they have the knowledge to not get a virus.  almost everybody needs an av  there's only a few who dont.  I can probably do without an ava, not because i am knowledgeable, but because I am not stupid enough to fall for most tricks, however i learned by getting tricked to begin with  :D.


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One example: My mother has a desktop computer (one of my ex). Regularly about twice per year she calls me she has a virus or malware and I need to come to fix it. She always had an up to date AV running too. The last time the bug was a nasty one, after removal all file associations etc. were gone. I got tired and installed Ubuntu on her computer despite her protests.

Granted it took some time to teach her where to find stuff and which programs to use instead of the old windows ones (+ get the printer/scanner working) but after that the calls about viruses just stoped. I was in peace for about 2 years. Untill she bought a new windows 7 laptop  :t
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Re: trojans and firwall
« Reply #43 on: May 27, 2012, 02:37:56 AM »
Get a Mac  :banana:
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Re: trojans and firwall
« Reply #44 on: May 27, 2012, 07:52:22 AM »
I like big macs :old:

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