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Re: Absolute best automotive degreaser???
« Reply #15 on: May 25, 2012, 09:16:04 PM »
Go back 30 years ago and 1,1,1-Trichloroethane was the best degreaser you could get, just keep it away from rubber seals... Banned now due to ozone depletion.. These days I use Alconox products.

What did they generically call that stuff?  Tri something?  It works great, but it also dissolved the fat out of you skin, so you don't want to get drenched with it..tri sodium phosphate?  It's cheap and it comes in a powder and you have to mix it with water.
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Re: Absolute best automotive degreaser???
« Reply #16 on: May 25, 2012, 09:21:25 PM »
It's also known as TSP.
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Re: Absolute best automotive degreaser???
« Reply #18 on: May 25, 2012, 10:18:11 PM »
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Re: Absolute best automotive degreaser???
« Reply #19 on: May 25, 2012, 10:46:21 PM »
http://www.washwax.com/products.php?pid=17

I use this stuff on my plane, works great.
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Re: Absolute best automotive degreaser???
« Reply #20 on: May 25, 2012, 10:50:27 PM »
Methanol  Very useful, just don't drink it :D

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Re: Absolute best automotive degreaser???
« Reply #21 on: May 25, 2012, 11:13:47 PM »
How close till critical mass?
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Re: Absolute best automotive degreaser???
« Reply #22 on: May 26, 2012, 07:31:36 AM »
I use Simple Green but I'm clueless if that would work for you.

NEVER use Simple Green for aircraft.  It is corrosive to aluminum.  

For that matter, if you use it on a vehicle engine, expect things to get ugly if you have a newer car, good chance there is aluminum in the engine it too.

Whenever considering using a cleaner on aircraft, you absolutely must research to see if it is corrosive to aluminum.  If you don't, you take a very good chance on destroying an aircraft.  Liquids get into lap seams, etc and will corrode where you can't see it.  Once you do see it, the metal is too far gone.

Safest bet, and best way to go with aircraft, use a product designed for aircraft cleaning.
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Re: Absolute best automotive degreaser???
« Reply #23 on: May 26, 2012, 08:26:49 AM »
It's also known as TSP.

4 years ago I bought some with an old family friend at a local hardware store....how recent is this ban?
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Re: Absolute best automotive degreaser???
« Reply #24 on: May 26, 2012, 09:03:19 AM »
NEVER use Simple Green for aircraft.  It is corrosive to aluminum.  

For that matter, if you use it on a vehicle engine, expect things to get ugly if you have a newer car, good chance there is aluminum in the engine it too.

Whenever considering using a cleaner on aircraft, you absolutely must research to see if it is corrosive to aluminum.  If you don't, you take a very good chance on destroying an aircraft.  Liquids get into lap seams, etc and will corrode where you can't see it.  Once you do see it, the metal is too far gone.

Safest bet, and best way to go with aircraft, use a product designed for aircraft cleaning.

Luminox is excellent for aluminum, especially unpainted or untreated aluminum. Luminox is a low foaming, neutral pH detergent for use in manual, ultrasonic, and machine cleaning. Safe-handling detergent used for non-corrosive cleaning without chelation or alkalinity waste treatment problems. Recommended for aluminum and soft metal, medical devices, pharmaceutical equipment, alkaline sensitive labware, and medical instruments in aluminum trays. Free rinsing, eliminating interfering residues. Dilute 3:100. pH 7

We use it to clean freshly machined aluminum manifolds used in the F-35. After thorough rinsing with fresh water, the surface is clean, degreased, residue free and ready for anti-corrosion treatment and paint.

The only down side is that it isn't inexpensive. About $77 per gallon. However, one gallon will make 25 gallons of cleaning solution.
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Re: Absolute best automotive degreaser???
« Reply #25 on: May 26, 2012, 09:45:46 AM »
I really mourned the passing of 1, 1, 1, trichloroethane.............b ut it was funny watching my boss at the z shop bail out of a 240z on the lift in 1990 when he used "this new and less expensive brake cleaner" to douse the flames that come up inside when you are welding a new floor in.

The old stuff didn't burn.

The new stuff seems more dangerous to finishes and is more harsh when in contact with humans.

Varsol is a lot less intense than anything else mentioned and doesn't seem to harm paint if you make sure to wash it's leavings off with soapy water.

Just be careful if you're sourcing it from a parts cleaner because someone will surely have cleaned parts with a more intense spray cleaner in the parts cleaner netting you a more corrosive mix of solvent then you wanted.

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Re: Absolute best automotive degreaser???
« Reply #26 on: May 26, 2012, 11:15:14 AM »
I use simple green or gasoline if green is not cutting it. Do know how good for the plane's pain, but gasoline is awsome. :devil
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Re: Absolute best automotive degreaser???
« Reply #27 on: May 26, 2012, 12:20:53 PM »
NEVER use Simple Green for aircraft.  It is corrosive to aluminum.  

For that matter, if you use it on a vehicle engine, expect things to get ugly if you have a newer car, good chance there is aluminum in the engine it too.

Whenever considering using a cleaner on aircraft, you absolutely must research to see if it is corrosive to aluminum.  If you don't, you take a very good chance on destroying an aircraft.  Liquids get into lap seams, etc and will corrode where you can't see it.  Once you do see it, the metal is too far gone.

Safest bet, and best way to go with aircraft, use a product designed for aircraft cleaning.
ya that's why I'm trying to get multiple products so I can research them... I guess sg can be crossed off...
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Re: Absolute best automotive degreaser???
« Reply #28 on: May 26, 2012, 12:59:00 PM »
heavey grease is actually fairly easy to clean.

first DO NOT SOAK OR PRESOAP THE HEAVEY DEPOSITS! use plastic scrapers (automotive body shop fibroglass and bondo scrappers work very well) to scrape off as much of the bulk of the grease as you can get.

second once you have the grease scraped down to as thin a layer as possible heat it up in patches as hot as possible with a high preasure steam cleaner (without soap or solvent!) and then scrape it again.

third and final, the remaining final film can then be cleaned using a mix of hot water and any GENTLE!! solvent (yes even dawn dish detergent will work very well) use a stiff plastic or fiber bristled brush (toilet brush with a plastic (not metal) inner ring etc) to break up the residue and then a heavy sponge to wipe away.

rinse and repeat step 3 as needed per spot.

as a foot note, keep in mind most mixable solvents are very water sensative. too much water in the mix and you over delute the solution, not enough water and the solvent will not become acidic/alakaline enough (depending on type) to properly clean the grease. too often people think that more is better but this is actually a chemical reaction you are creating so the proper concentration is always the best route to take.

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Re: Absolute best automotive degreaser???
« Reply #29 on: May 26, 2012, 01:08:08 PM »
Whoah, my original post was all messed up. (Memorial Day weekend cheer  :cheers:)


What we use is called DC-99 it is awesome. Here is the website.

http://dwdavies.com/product/dc-99


We also use a product called "Number 11", but rubber gloves and breathing apparatus is required. It's bad news.
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