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This Day In History
« on: May 25, 2012, 04:56:48 PM »






On May 27, 1941, the British navy sinks the German battleship Bismarck in the North Atlantic near France. The German death toll was more than 2,000.
 
On February 14, 1939, the 823-foot Bismarck was launched at Hamburg. Nazi leader Adolf Hitler hoped that the state-of-the-art battleship would herald the rebirth of the German surface battle fleet. However, after the outbreak of war, Britain closely guarded ocean routes from Germany to the Atlantic Ocean, and only U-boats moved freely through the war zone.
 
In May 1941, the order was given for the Bismarck to break out into the Atlantic. Once in the safety of the open ocean, the battleship would be almost impossible to track down, all the while wreaking havoc on Allied convoys to Britain. Learning of its movement, Britain sent almost the entire British Home Fleet in pursuit. On May 24, the British battle cruiser Hood and battleship Prince of Wales intercepted it near Iceland. In a ferocious battle, the Hood exploded and sank, and all but three of the 1,421 crewmen were killed. The Bismarck escaped, but because it was leaking fuel it fled for occupied France. On May 26, it was sighted and crippled by British aircraft, and on May 27 three British warships descended on the Bismarck and finished it off.
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« Reply #1 on: May 25, 2012, 05:17:53 PM »
yes i know i have the movie--on vhs and dvd
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« Reply #2 on: May 25, 2012, 07:13:39 PM »
Cool  :aok

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« Reply #3 on: May 26, 2012, 10:25:57 AM »
The steel used in The Bismark could have made 100 U-Boats :old:

The German U-Boat were under strength to fulfill the task off cutting the Atlantic crossing and these extra U-Boats may have turned the tide to the advantage of the Narzzies.

The early successes of the U-Boats was more down to the Allies inefficiencies in dealing with the U-Boat problem.
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« Reply #4 on: May 26, 2012, 11:18:48 AM »
For all Britan's naval prowess wasn't it like a single hit that took down the HMS Hood?  Wow.  Talk about a nice shot.
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« Reply #5 on: May 26, 2012, 11:37:05 AM »
No armoured deck British incompetent :old:
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« Reply #6 on: May 26, 2012, 12:22:15 PM »
a torp from a biplane clipped the rudder and sent it turning in circles i think
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« Reply #7 on: May 26, 2012, 12:37:02 PM »
The steel used in The Bismark could have made 100 U-Boats :old:

The German U-Boat were under strength to fulfill the task off cutting the Atlantic crossing and these extra U-Boats may have turned the tide to the advantage of the Narzzies.
The Fascists would have lost, regardless. Their fate was sealed with Operation Barbarossa.

On the topic of the Bismark's destruction, way to go Royal Navy.
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« Reply #8 on: May 26, 2012, 03:55:28 PM »
A swordfish would be  good in game :)
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« Reply #9 on: May 26, 2012, 04:29:08 PM »
Swordfish would be slightly less usefull than the TBM and B5N. In other words not at all.



And on topic of the Hood's destruction, way to go Kriegsmarine  :devil.
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« Reply #10 on: May 26, 2012, 05:17:37 PM »
Bit like the Stuka bit poo but fun anyway :)

Ultra intercepts and the silliness's of the narzzies to believe that the Enigma machines could not be broken help quite a bit as well :rofl :rofl



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« Reply #11 on: May 26, 2012, 05:50:17 PM »
They couldn't be broken without an intact example of the relevent version of an enigma machine and code books, or an INSANE ammount of luck when playing around with the dials.
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« Reply #12 on: May 26, 2012, 06:09:14 PM »
And on topic of the Hood's destruction, way to go Kriegsmarine  :devil.
You do realize the difference between what the Royal Navy was fighting for and what the Kriegsmarine was fighting for, right?  The only thing the crew of the Bismark would have deserved a "way to go" for is if they'd sailed it straight to Skapa Flow and surrendered it.

They couldn't be broken without an intact example of the relevent version of an enigma machine and code books, or an INSANE ammount of luck when playing around with the dials.
The Kriegsmarine's codes, yes.  The Wehrmacht and Luftwaffe's were, as I recall, broken without access to physical examples due to poor encryption practices.
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« Reply #13 on: May 26, 2012, 06:16:24 PM »
The Kriegsmarine's codes, yes.  The Wehrmacht and Luftwaffe's were, as I recall, broken without access to physical examples due to poor encryption practices.
Beat me to it. See below.  If I recall, the Gestapo was the most disciplined and the Luftwaffe was the most lax.
 
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They couldn't be broken without an intact example of the relevent version of an enigma machine and code books, or an INSANE ammount of luck when playing around with the dials.
On the topic of Enigma, it was  the less-than-uber men encoding things like "heil hitler" that the Bletchley Park picked up as repeated patterns.

On the developing modern computers, way to go, British Intelligence.
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« Reply #14 on: May 26, 2012, 06:22:12 PM »
I recall British operations where they'd use German maps and fly out and mine some chunk of sea just to have known coordinates that the Germans would then send an encrypted message saying sector 45/82 had been mined.  That would give Bletchley Park the key to decode things for that day.

In the Mediterranean the RAF would arrange for a recon flight to "discover" Axis convoys they knew about due to the decryption before sending a strike force to sink it.  Rommel was sure there was a spy in the Italian command structure.
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