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Offline Tank-Ace

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Re: HO Philosphy
« Reply #165 on: May 31, 2012, 07:17:44 PM »
Krusty, sorry bud, but you really don't have an argument here.
You started this thread and it was obviously about your want and desire in spite of your use of 'we' and Google.

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Re: HO Philosphy
« Reply #166 on: May 31, 2012, 07:27:08 PM »
People are confusing having no respect for the 'skill' of those who can only HO with whining about being HOd

Elitism I guess could be the right word for it even though Krusty is clueless in everything else he said

There are players who have no respect for the 'lowest common denominator' pilots and aspire to get something more from their time playing AH...that's elitism I suppose, looking down on those you feel are inferior

It's not whining, I'd say it's more like pity *shrug*
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Re: HO Philosphy
« Reply #167 on: May 31, 2012, 07:47:49 PM »
Head On shots are just part of this game, get used to it. Just the way it is.  :old:
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Re: HO Philosphy
« Reply #168 on: May 31, 2012, 08:10:24 PM »
Head On shots are just part of this game, get used to it. Just the way it is.  :old:




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Re: HO Philosphy
« Reply #169 on: May 31, 2012, 08:36:57 PM »
The only players whining about HO's in this forum tend to have thee skillz.

Can anyone find a single post since 1999 in which a noob complains about how easy thee skillz guru's die to the HO?

The HO is the one universal equaliser between noobs and thee skillz gurus in the wolf pit that thee skillz guru cannot 100% bet his cartoon life on always evadeing. Sounds like a Samual Colt moment for the ages and the noobs.

Thee skillz gurus are still bloviating to change the focus of this audience from that fact.

Has HTC ever condemned the HO as part of playing their game in agreement with the "Nanny Peer Police"?

If the HO is this killer of a technique that thee DA skillz gurus are bloviating, whining, and insulting the general game population over it. Maybe they should go back to the DA and spend the same amount of time they did polishing their fancy Rear End skillz, polishing their fancy Front End evading skillz against thee HO.

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Ok Daddy so heros shoot you in the back, cowards in the face. Got it Daddy..... :x
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Re: HO Philosphy
« Reply #170 on: May 31, 2012, 08:39:07 PM »
*shrug* I just think it's a lot simpler to look at the game without all the arbitrary rules and restrictions, and look at it in terms of what the enemy is capable of doing versus what it isn't capable of doing, and acting accordingly.  Makes for a lot less stress on my end.

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Re: HO Philosphy
« Reply #171 on: May 31, 2012, 09:22:07 PM »
bustr, while it equalizes (or helps to equalize) the skill difference between noob and veteran pilots, I think the issue is veteran pilots HO'ing because they simply value 'winning' in and of itself above the fight. While its entirely up to them where they derive their pleasure from, I think that if we could replace them with people who care about the fight above winning, the game would be better off in all areas.
You started this thread and it was obviously about your want and desire in spite of your use of 'we' and Google.

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Re: HO Philosphy
« Reply #172 on: May 31, 2012, 09:45:31 PM »
The only players whining about HO's in this forum tend to have thee skillz.

Gee, I wonder if there's a reason for that.

While you're looking up every post from 1999 on, you might notice that those "l33t" piwwets, are the ones helping and encouraging people to get better.


 It's not about the kill, (edit) or being killed, it's about the fight.
But since you're just a troll, I'm going to refrain from posting any further.
« Last Edit: May 31, 2012, 09:47:53 PM by Scotch »
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Re: HO Philosphy
« Reply #173 on: May 31, 2012, 10:03:58 PM »
Ok Daddy so heros shoot you in the back, cowards in the face. Got it Daddy.....

A Samual Colt manuver for everyone of all ages and skill levels. You obviously spent all your time polishing you rear end skillz and absoluty no time polishing your front end evasion skillz. You have a hole in your skillz that any noob can use to take advantage of you. The horror, Oh thee Horror.

So instead of polishing your front end evasion skillz you wast your time joining the "Nanny Peer Police" to sooth each others smitten front ends while bringing peer preasure against those who practice the Samual Colt manuver.

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Re: HO Philosphy
« Reply #174 on: May 31, 2012, 10:53:55 PM »
Anyone else notice Bustr's been kinda grumpy lately? I vote we send him a bottle of scotch in the hopes he either drinks himself happy, or passes out. Whatever comes first.
You started this thread and it was obviously about your want and desire in spite of your use of 'we' and Google.

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Re: HO Philosphy
« Reply #175 on: May 31, 2012, 10:54:39 PM »
bustr, while it equalizes (or helps to equalize) the skill difference between noob and veteran pilots, I think the issue is veteran pilots HO'ing because they simply value 'winning' in and of itself above the fight. While its entirely up to them where they derive their pleasure from, I think that if we could replace them with people who care about the fight above winning, the game would be better off in all areas.

If I get HO'ed and wanted to avoid it (i don't want to always) I'm unhappy with myself. Lack of skill on my part not my opponent.

Sometimes I think the so called skilled pilots may need to rethink their tactics. Turn and burn, BnZ, or Ho they are all part of the tactics of this online game and you need to  learn to adjust to the tactics. They aren't right or wrong and taking a moral high road because you weren't good enough to get out of the way of the oppositions fire is interesting to see.
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Re: HO Philosphy
« Reply #176 on: May 31, 2012, 11:00:53 PM »
Who cares if its a 'legitimate tactic'. I'm not even saying that it ISN'T. I've ho'd people that do nothing but BnZ from 3k above you, because I got tired of slowly building up E as I avoided their passes. I just went verticle right back at them, and shoved a couple of 30mm's in their stupid faces.


But what I'm saying is that it makes for short, uninteresting fights, and since the majority of players seem to fly for the fights themselves, as opposed to just winning the fights, that means our view is more popular. Since this is an oppinion, and has absolutely NO solid possitions to argue from regarding if one side is 'wrong', its a case of majority wins.
You started this thread and it was obviously about your want and desire in spite of your use of 'we' and Google.

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Re: HO Philosphy
« Reply #177 on: June 01, 2012, 12:49:51 AM »
There is no fix for the use of the Samual Colt manuver in this game. It is the great equaliser. As players grow out of it at their own pace they will use it less as they learn other tactics. Sorry they aren't changing on your busy time schedual to make everything convienint for you. They owe you nothing of the kind since thier $14.95 is as good as yours to HTC.

All of you self appointed keepers of Aces High's virtue are making fools of yourselves by proclaiming your skillz as your justification to judge the conduct of lesser skillz players while whining that they are beating you unfairly with the Samual Colt manuver. So what happened to your superior skillz?

Thats exactly like listening to a cahmpionship fighter on television complain that he was beaten with a succer puch in a no holds barred cage match the moment the bell rang.

You skillz guys are the only ones whining about being beat with the Samual Colt manuver. Must one dang effective way to impose a coitus interruptus maximus on your fun and self esteem.

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Re: HO Philosphy
« Reply #178 on: June 01, 2012, 01:38:40 AM »
There is no fix for the use of the Samual Colt manuver in this game. It is the great equaliser.

How totally wrong.

I can out manouver the HO 95% of the time and usually do but occasionally I'll take it; sometimes because I'm forced into it due to E states or due to multi-con engagements but occasionally out of spite.  After sixteen years of perfecting my HO shot I'll win that tactic 80% of the time if not more.

If you really want to HO bring it and we'll see who wins.  If I lose I'll try not to complain.

EDIT:  As stated many times in the past my guns are generally converged at 400-650 yards and most likely 650 if I'm going to accept a HO.  Where are yours?  You'll be dead before you stop spraying and praying.
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Re: HO Philosphy
« Reply #179 on: June 01, 2012, 05:12:07 AM »
Its a philosophy?

...No wonder so many do it.  ;)
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