It Got Bigggg Guns. Me410 on Front Page.

[Lusche]

We're actually getting three new guns in the next version. 

And the first plane with a DB603. The Do 217M should follow now 

[Volron]

Well that's a little silly. If you don't get any AP ammo for the BK5, then why fly it against GV's? Does it still possess a significant GV threat without 50mm AP ammo?

Nutz

Why not?  I've had quite a bit of success (the few times I actually did it) taking out Panzers, and even T-34's with the Yak 9T's 37mm, which is far weaker than the BK-5.  To answer your question, yes, it will pose a solid threat to those who know how to use it.

Makes me curious to how the AT role will play out in terms of guns...

Maybe something like this?

1) Il-2
2) 410 Bk-5
3) 25H
4) 87G (5th?)
5) 2D (4th?)
6) 9T
7) 39

Usage is what I mean.

Since the 410 will probably handle better than the 25H, I am guessing that it will take the 2nd slot despite the 25's 75mm gun.  I'm guessing the Bk-5 will have a faster reload and MAYBE more ammo.  The 87G and the 2D require a little bit more time for proper setups, as the ammo supply is rather limited but I put the 87G ahead of the 2D due to it having better guns/ammo, even though the 2D will get there and can setup quicker.  The Il-2 is in the top spot for obvious reasons.  I mean, you can't go wrong with solid armor and large amounts of lead to rain down on gv's.   The 9T and the 39's are in the list because I have used them against GV's with some success.  I will have to admit though, the last time I took a 39 or a 9T up against GV's, it was prior to our current town layout and MAYBE just after...   I just may give em a go again, for the spork of it.

[Volron]

And the first plane with a DB603. The Do 217M should follow now 

I'd kill to have ANY type of Dornier in Aces High!

[Rich52]

Two very exciting airplanes being introduced. Neither is a Soviet Bomber but i aint complaining.

[Lusche]

Why not?  I've had quite a bit of success (the few times I actually did it) taking out Panzers, and even T-34's with the Yak 9T's 37mm,

You have any films of the latter one?
I have seen references to that from time to time here and in game, but have never actually seen anyone doing it, much less doing it repeatedly, and utterly failed myself so far. Kill stats for the Yak for 2011 don't show any signifcant number of kills either 

[Rich52]

Ive killed mostly Panzers with the Yak 9t. And even them not a whole lot of them. Ive killed a few T-34s too but not many. Unfortunatly like the BK 5 the NS-37 on the Yak was loaded with HE ammo and the plane was used as a more general purpose attacker like the 410 was. I would think the 410 saw very little anti-tank action and it will not be the #2 tank killer in the game. Im betting the 87G takes the #2 spot.

Why not?  I've had quite a bit of success (the few times I actually did it) taking out Panzers, and even T-34's with the Yak 9T's 37mm, which is far weaker than the BK-5.  To answer your question, yes, it will pose a solid threat to those who know how to use it.

Makes me curious to how the AT role will play out in terms of guns...

Maybe something like this?

1) Il-2
2) 410 Bk-5
3) 25H
4) 87G (5th?)
5) 2D (4th?)
6) 9T
7) 39

Usage is what I mean.

Since the 410 will probably handle better than the 25H, I am guessing that it will take the 2nd slot despite the 25's 75mm gun.  I'm guessing the Bk-5 will have a faster reload and MAYBE more ammo.  The 87G and the 2D require a little bit more time for proper setups, as the ammo supply is rather limited but I put the 87G ahead of the 2D due to it having better guns/ammo, even though the 2D will get there and can setup quicker.  The Il-2 is in the top spot for obvious reasons.  I mean, you can't go wrong with solid armor and large amounts of lead to rain down on gv's.   The 9T and the 39's are in the list because I have used them against GV's with some success.  I will have to admit though, the last time I took a 39 or a 9T up against GV's, it was prior to our current town layout and MAYBE just after...   I just may give em a go again, for the spork of it.

[morfiend]

  IIRC the BK5 has 22 rounds so not alot of ammo.

  However the Mk103 was capable of using tungsen core AP ammo that should be a threat to most tanks,possible exception the TigerII. It could carry up to 6 bombs in bombbay and is equiped with dive brakes.

  The main 20mm guns carried 350 rds each and 250 in the others,up to 6x20mm guns.

   Top speed should be about 380/390 range so close to the Mossie IV,otd the Mossie should be about 25 to 35mph faster on wep. Roll rate shouldnt be great,slightly faster than the 110G but not much faster.  Oh and the 103's should carry 100 rds each.


   

[Volron]

You have any films of the latter one?
I have seen references to that from time to time here and in game, but have never actually seen anyone doing it, much less doing it repeatedly, and utterly failed myself so far. Kill stats for the Yak for 2011 don't show any signifcant number of kills either 

No films...

I didn't do it repeatedly.  It was more of a, "why the ell not?", type of runs.  And the few times I did, I enjoyed a bit of success, but mostly against Panzers.  The T-34 is a tricky tank, especially if it's moving.  If you get one that's dumb enough to stay still, then it's quite a bit easier, though it will still take quite a few rounds.  I think my best run on a T-34 cost me 15 rounds.  Usually, I spend almost all of my ammo knocking one out.  I find coming in high and behind, putting the rounds just behind their turret does the trick.  Terrain dictated when I could take my shot without littering the landscape with my plane.  If they are moving, I only took one shot (unless they were moving in a nice, straight line).  If they were stationary, then I could take 2.

[Karnak]

Top speed should be about 380/390 range so close to the Mossie IV,otd the Mossie should be about 25 to 35mph faster on wep. Roll rate shouldnt be great,slightly faster than the 110G but not much faster.  Oh and the 103's should carry 100 rds each.


   

The speed bands are quite different though.  If I recall, the Me410 does about 390 at 19,000ft compared to the 384 of the Mossie VI at 13,000ft.  On the deck the Me410 should do something between 320 and 345mph.  Mossie does 357 clean, P-38L does 345 clean and the Bf110G-2 does 322 clean on the deck.

[LCADolby]

You have any films of the latter one?
I have seen references to that from time to time here and in game, but have never actually seen anyone doing it, much less doing it repeatedly, and utterly failed myself so far. Kill stats for the Yak for 2011 don't show any signifcant number of kills either 

got a link to your stat pages ?

[Lusche]

got a link to your stat pages ?

I have only a link to HTC stat pages

[LCADolby]

I have only a link to HTC stat pages

Your such a spoil sport

[Lusche]

Your such a spoil sport

I can't help it. I have no stats pages 

[morfiend]

The speed bands are quite different though.  If I recall, the Me410 does about 390 at 19,000ft compared to the 384 of the Mossie VI at 13,000ft.  On the deck the Me410 should do something between 320 and 345mph.  Mossie does 357 clean, P-38L does 345 clean and the Bf110G-2 does 322 clean on the deck.

 Ya Karnak,thats about what I have.  I think the mossie will be better all around but the 410 should have the edge in firepower. Just the 2x20mm guns have 700 rds,equal to overload on mossie but the firing time should be twice as long!   Should be interesting if a few players really learn to use her,much like the mossie,those select few make her a dangerous bird!  Batty comes to mind!


  

[Karnak]

Ya Karnak,thats about what I have.  I think the mossie will be better all around but the 410 should have the edge in firepower. Just the 2x20mm guns have 700 rds,equal to overload on mossie but the firing time should be twice as long!   Should be interesting if a few players really learn to use her,much like the mossie,those select few make her a dangerous bird!  Batty comes to mind!


  

Its firepower is a lot better and its bomb load should be very much better.  I see the Me410 getting a lot more lot more use because of its likely superiority over the Mossie as an attack aircraft.