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Offline Krusty

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A couple of errors in 410 shape on screenshots
« on: May 29, 2012, 10:19:40 PM »
There are a couple of glaring errors in the shape of the 410 on the screenshots posted on the front page.

First and foremost: The screenshots show that the "barbettes" -- mounted on a rotating drum through the fuselage, stick OUT from the skin of the fuselage left and right. This is woefully incorrect. They were "plugs" of the fuselage and were flush unless rotated to the extremes up/down. I know there is one museum piece where they stand out -- but this is simply a modern flaw in displaying old and possibly damaged equipment. I suspect this is the reference used -- but I would caution it is not accurate! Please make the guns flush! It will also save a few polygons, no doubt.

Here it is in the screenshots:



If you stop and look at any other photo you will find the "cap" on the end of the drum is flush with the fuselage when the gun is "neutral" (facing straight back) and you only see a slight shadow when it is rotated so far as its shape is no longer in sync with the curve of the fuselage.

See here:



And here:




Second and also seen on the Fw190: The screenshots show the tail section was given a pointed oval cross section. HTC, you have it close but it's still not quite right. It was much more of a rounded box shape. By this I mean it was a very gentle curve until at the upper and lower limits, then it sharply turned inwards. You have it more as a gradual soft curve all the way from the middle of the vertical plane. This has plagued the shape of the Fw190 for so long and has been in need of a fix for ages. It would be a very big shame to see the same on the 410.

Here is the angle from the screenshot:



You can see from many screenshots that both the 210 and the 410 shared the same shape -- more squared off and nearly flat on the sides (but not entirely so) with a sharper curve along a smaller corner at the top and bottom.

As seen here:



You'll note the tailband curves at the top and bottom but is radically different than the one on the screenshot.

You'll also see here:



That the large letter codes run right up to the tail fins on this 210 yet they show almost no warping/curving as they approach them.

This also shows a good view of the 410 to illustrate that the 410 was no different from the 210 in this case:




I am really psyched for the 410 (more than most) and I present this again in the hopes of HTC getting the shape right. Thank you for doing such a superb job on it, and I hope you will re-shape the tail and guns to fit WW2 photos.

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Re: A couple of errors in 410 shape on screenshots
« Reply #1 on: May 30, 2012, 12:26:20 AM »
Also I noticed the bomb bays are simply wrong in the one screenshot they appear in. The bomb bays were hinged to rotate inward inside the bay and were just shy of flush with the fuselage when fully opened. This can be found in many sources (some already supplied), and I hope that gets fixed as well. It looks rather odd right now, kind of like the b-29 nose gear do (also not hinged in the right spot).

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Re: A couple of errors in 410 shape on screenshots
« Reply #2 on: May 31, 2012, 02:31:06 AM »
Bomb Bay like this:




Or like this:



Or this:



And this:



And this:



Barbett this:



And finaly this:

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