a different ENY horse to beat

[caldera]

Sorry Bro. I thought you also were looking for a change in the ENY. You want to see it changed/modified and I do too. You want the numbers rearranged and I would like to see them reduced to 0. Kinda like screwin' a goat... 1 inch or 4 inches, you're still screwin' a goat.

You want to eliminate ENY, while I want it to actually work as it's (seemingly) designed.  Currently, ENY doesn't affect your plane choice until your country has a massive numbers advantage.  It seems that up until that magic threshold, there is no ENY limitation whatsoever.  I think the threshold should be moved downward to when one country has 125% of the numbers of another, ENY kicks in at 5 and goes up from there.  Of course, this change needs the ability to switch sides restored to actually work.  High numbers force high ENY/players switch sides to fly their high end rides/sides now balanced (more or less)/ta-da!

If you get your wish and ENY were eliminated, there would be almost nothing but the best planes - all the time.  No ENY means 1 perk for every kill, whether it is a Spit I or Spit XVI.  Most people (whether they admit it or not) do care about these things and will have no game incentive to branch out to other planes.  This would kill variety in the air to the extent that it would be all 51s/Tempests/C-Hogs/SpitXVIs/262s all the time.  It would be Furball Lake redux, with base taking thrown in.  HTC could just remove most of the plane set from the hangar at that point. 

[--)SF----]

I want to fly in the MA with nuthin but tempies.  It will be like a giant furball lake.  Yeah.

[A8balls]

I understand all that. But since I've been playing (from Nov 2000 to now), the numbers really never reflect actual players in the air. How many times has your ENY rose and upon checking the clipboard you find only 38% are "In Flight". Until idle players (the ones sitting in the tower while they BBQ and other such things) can be controled, do away with the ENY. It sure wouldn't hurt to try it at least once.

[Karnak]

I understand all that. But since I've been playing (from Nov 2000 to now), the numbers really never reflect actual players in the air. How many times has your ENY rose and upon checking the clipboard you find only 38% are "In Flight". Until idle players (the ones sitting in the tower while they BBQ and other such things) can be controled, do away with the ENY. It sure wouldn't hurt to try it at least once.

Statistically, that affects all sides equally.  There may be spikes now and then, most often due to a mission about to launch I'd guess, but overall it should be a fairly even effect.

[guncrasher]

LOL!! I think about the only time you'll find INK 10k over anyone is if he went AFK and forgot to come back!

you are wrong on this one fugitive.  he's a great player, one of the best in my opinion, have seen him take on 4 v 1 and kill all of us.  I dont doubt his skill at all.  but he does like to go above everybody else.  it isnt about skill or manhood or anything like that.  we all pick given the chance.  and we all run but the more skill you have the more you call it "extending".  and I am not accusing ink of anything.

there isnt one guy that plays aces high that hasnt picked, ho'd, rammed, run, you name it.  and if you think of anybody who hasnt, remember the old joke.  90% of all men admit playing with themselves the other 10% lie about it.

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[MajWoody]

K4 = K/D 1.48 and usage 2.81%

I'm surprised that the K4 usage is only 2.81%

[Lusche]

I'm surprised that the K4 usage is only 2.81%

That's rank #12 out of 66 fighters in Late War, just between the P-38L and the Ki-84. Upper middle class in terms of popularity, so to speak

[MajWoody]

That's rank #12 out of 66 fighters in Late War, just between the P-38L and the Ki-84. Upper middle class in terms of popularity, so to speak

Thanks for the info sir.   

[Lusche]

Wait... here's the overview of Usage alone:




But keep in mind it's including all kind of kills and deaths. For air-to-air kills & deaths alone the chart should look a bit different. But then, air to air combat has an ever declining importance in this game

[W7LPNRICK]

My list:

109G2 - 25.0
109G6 - 20.0
109G14 - 15.0
109K4 - 10.0
Bf110G2 - 20.0
F6F-5 - 20.0
Ki-84 - 15.0
Fw-190D - 10.0
Mosquito - 25.0
Yak-T - 30.0

Sorry, but as long as the k-4 only has 65 rounds & relatively light use 20 is appropriate. Mossie 20 is good.

[ACE]

K4 should be around 15 imo.

[ink]

Im not one of those three who are the best but I damn sure will turn the pony.  Just like anyother plane I fly.

I know  

you are wrong on this one fugitive.  he's a great player, one of the best in my opinion, have seen him take on 4 v 1 and kill all of us.  I dont doubt his skill at all.  but he does like to go above everybody else.  it isnt about skill or manhood or anything like that.  we all pick given the chance.  and we all run but the more skill you have the more you call it "extending".  and I am not accusing ink of anything.

there isnt one guy that plays aces high that hasnt picked, ho'd, rammed, run, you name it.  and if you think of anybody who hasnt, remember the old joke.  90% of all men admit playing with themselves the other 10% lie about it.

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I appreciate your words but

you are wrong...... I have NEVER run from a fight no matter the odds.....NEVER.....in the 7 years I have been here I have never run from anyone or any amount of numbers...... NOT ONE  TIME 

hell man I remember getting pissed at some friendlies that jumped in on my 3vs1 I was having....

if I am out of ammo ya I will leave and that's generally the only time I will leave....even if there is blood ever where I have stayed and fought...not always but I have...those are the only 2 reasons I try to RTB well that and low fuel, although even then I have stayed and fought till I ran out of fuel....or died from blood loss.

so no not everyone runs, there is not ONE person who can say they saw me run.....well they can say it all they want, but they are lying through their teeth.... guaranteed they wont be able to come up with proof.

as far as the other things you mentioned...yup I have HOed usually its getting sick of avoiding some tard in a BnZ plane extending away 4 K just to come back and pick me, damn right I will give him a face full...fighting a crap load of nme I will also take the shots that present themselves....Zero's and 262's I also HO

 ramming well durr its a dogfight it happens

Vulching.....in 7 years maybe 10 times....

 yes I do get some ALT now a days(certainly not 10K above ) because of huge gangs of tards yet there is always someone higher then me ......I don't mind fighting 4-5 guys but damn when I am already fighting that many and 4+ more jump in it gets quite pathetic.


and no I don't gang.... have I killed nme with friendlies around yup.... but you will never see me jump on a nme con that is already fighting a couple, if they are running from numbers and try to attack me.... ya I will turn my guns on them, they should have left me alone and worried about the guys behind them.

[Karnak]

Sorry, but as long as the k-4 only has 65 rounds & relatively light use 20 is appropriate. Mossie 20 is good.

Why should the much less used, much less capable Mosquito VI have the same ENY as the Bf109K-4?  That seems like you have a bit of an agenda there.

It is possible that 20 is the appropriate marker for the Mosquito Mk VI, but if it is then 20 is not the correct marker for the Bf109K-4.

[titanic3]

Sorry, but as long as the k-4 only has 65 rounds & relatively light use 20 is appropriate. Mossie 20 is good.

You only need one or two rounds max for a kill with the tater. Light use? I see them all the time, not as much as the P51, but it's up there (as shown by the charts). It's fast, it climbs like a monster, and it's a one hit kill wonder (most of the time anyways  ). Hell, I love the frigging thing, but even I think 20 ENY is a bit too much. Show me a 20 ENY plane that can compete with it. I bet you you won't. P38J maybe, Ki-84 maybe. Though with those two planes, it's more of a case of pilot skill than the plane itself.

[Lusche]

Just a reminder: ENY is not only about the air-to-air capability...