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Re: Gloster Meteor
« Reply #30 on: June 06, 2012, 07:42:08 AM »
I'd prefer to see a He-162 added than the Meteor, at 100-120 perks. At least, it saw combat.
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Re: Gloster Meteor
« Reply #31 on: June 06, 2012, 09:14:17 AM »
does "because i like shootieshootie boomboom" apply?

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Re: Gloster Meteor
« Reply #32 on: June 06, 2012, 09:21:47 AM »
I'd prefer to see a He-162 added than the Meteor, at 100-120 perks. At least, it saw combat.
Sorry, but the Meteor saw far more combat than the He162.  The only way you can claim that the He162 saw combat and the Meteor did not is if you cherry pick what counts as combat down to getting, or being, an air-to-air kill.  By any other metric the Meteor saw as much or more.
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Re: Gloster Meteor
« Reply #33 on: June 06, 2012, 09:32:30 AM »
As far as i know, the 162 seen only a very minimal combat so cant agree with the claims for it.
Anyway, i do not want to see the 162 when some nation's core plane types are missing. Nope, the Meteor wasnt a "core plane type" either.
Also the "to fight the 262 dweebs" is wrong. Why so? 262s are normally used to collect the horde tax, right? You want to shoot theese... so youre a horde munkey, even worse, you want to horde in the best ride?
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Re: Gloster Meteor
« Reply #34 on: June 06, 2012, 09:45:54 AM »
I'd say core planes that are missing would be, in alphabetic order:

B6N2
Beaufighter
C.200
D4Y
DB-3/Il-4
Do17Z
He111
Ju52
Ki-43
LaGG-3
Pe-2
SB2C
SM.79-II
Wellington
Yak-1
Yak-3
Yak-7


I'd like to be able to list the Do217, G.55, H8K2, J2M3, Ju188, Ki-44, Ki-45, MiG-3, P1Y1 and Tu-2, but I just don't think they saw enough use to count a "core" aircraft.
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Re: Gloster Meteor
« Reply #35 on: June 06, 2012, 10:20:14 AM »
I'd say core planes that are missing would be, in alphabetic order:

B6N2
Beaufighter
C.200
D4Y
DB-3/Il-4
Do17Z
He111
Ju52
Ki-43
LaGG-3
Pe-2
SB2C
SM.79-II
Wellington
Yak-1
Yak-3
Yak-7


I'd like to be able to list the Do217, G.55, H8K2, J2M3, Ju188, Ki-44, Ki-45, MiG-3, P1Y1 and Tu-2, but I just don't think they saw enough use to count a "core" aircraft.

I cant argue with that.  Good list.  Though I say the Tu-2 before the Pe-2.   :aok
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Re: Gloster Meteor
« Reply #36 on: June 06, 2012, 12:28:00 PM »
I'd prefer to see a He-162 added than the Meteor, at 100-120 perks. At least, it saw combat.

so did the Meteor unless you don't think intercepting a flying bombs with a 1 ton warhead wasn't combat.

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Re: Gloster Meteor
« Reply #37 on: June 06, 2012, 01:32:23 PM »
so did the Meteor unless you don't think intercepting a flying bombs with a 1 ton warhead wasn't combat.

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Maybe he thinks people who disarm bombs for a living arn't "combat veterans" since they arn't being shot at.
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Re: Gloster Meteor
« Reply #38 on: June 06, 2012, 04:26:53 PM »
I'd say core planes that are missing would be, in alphabetic order:

B6N2
Beaufighter
C.200
D4Y
DB-3/Il-4
Do17Z
He111
IAR-80/81A, B, and C.
Ju52
Ki-43
LaGG-3
Pe-2
SB2C
SM.79-II
Wellington
Yak-1
Yak-7

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Re: Gloster Meteor
« Reply #39 on: June 06, 2012, 04:53:58 PM »
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Don't think so.  Same as I didn't put any French or Polish aircraft on the list.  Not a big enough role in in the war.
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Re: Gloster Meteor
« Reply #40 on: June 06, 2012, 04:59:39 PM »
The IAR is core in that it was Romania's primary fighter untill mid 1944. Romania may not have been a big player, but I would say that over 4 years of service as the primary fighter of a secondary combatant makes a plane more 'core' than less than 1 year of combat service with a primary combatant.
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Re: Gloster Meteor
« Reply #41 on: June 06, 2012, 05:28:26 PM »
I could tell you tales about Romania's rule in the world wars, also Ghi could send me to hell, but im better staying quiet. Its better drinking beers than arguing, right?  : )
As long as AH dont have a jak-3/7, pe-2/tu-2, ki-43 and a ju-188 (ergo the most produced planes what are missing), i think the IAR80 series are pretty low on the list.
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Re: Gloster Meteor
« Reply #42 on: June 06, 2012, 05:35:28 PM »
Sorry, but I don't think pure numbers and usage is what makes a plane significant.

mean going based on that, the duce and a half is probably the biggest thing we're missing.
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Re: Gloster Meteor
« Reply #43 on: June 06, 2012, 08:19:34 PM »
It'd be awesome to see a Romanian fighter, if only because if it's been done before it's probably only in some dusty IL-2 expansion.
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Re: Gloster Meteor
« Reply #44 on: June 07, 2012, 10:31:15 AM »
Ack-Ack & Butcher, don't fall and hurt your big inflated heads when dismounting from your high horses, pls thx.
For your enlightenment, I have a lot of admiration for the people who shot down V1 bombs or died trying (as did Jean Maridor, french pilot in the RAF), as much as I have for the ferry pilots who were flying planes across the Atlantic...


Karnak, this is debatable:

Meteors shot down a grand total of 14 V1. In January 45, 4(!) Meteors were brought in Belgium to fly CAP over airfields. Only in March 45 flew the whole squadron recon and ground attacks, but away from the heavily german- and russian occupied areas to avoid a plane being captured. First losses in late April when 2 Meteors collided.

He 162 saw combat from mid-April 45. Scored some kills, lost 2 planes shot down and 11 due to tech problems.

I'm not belittling what the Meteor pilots did. I have a lot of respect for them. Both planes were used marginally during WWII but the He 162 was more invloved in the fight IMO (and how could it be otherwise, Germany was attacked from everywhere on its last lines of defence at this point).

I'm not asking for a new jet to be added, I agree that other planes deserve to be added first. I'm just pointing that IF a new jet has to be added, the He 162 is a valid candidate.


Oh yeah, it is better looking than the Meteor too.

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