setting the site in vehicle with mouse cursor

[bustr]

Why place anything on your LCD that might permentaly mark the plastic screen of your LCD?

Use a 1-2 inch strip of clear overlay plastic and tape it top and bottom to the frame surface. Orient it to the center of your monitor. Draw on whatever aids you need for the shooting you favor in the game. I have not tested it but, static attraction between plastics may hold it in place if you cut the length to fit snugly inside the height of your upper and lower monitor frames.

A Long time ago I used to tape two red silk threads in a cross hair on my CRT monitor.

Is it anymore gamey to know that the majority of shooting from your fighter 200-600 while looking through your gunsight for low-G shots takes place in the 28 pixels(14Mil) starting in the center of the 512x512 bitmap down to about line 284? Ask Fugi how that gunsight I gave him with the ghost drop compensation line in it at line 284 is working out for his hit%.

Most players only have the time they logon to play the game to learn how to use their gunsight to guns relationship. This is like grabbing someone off the street, handing them a machingun and dropping them into a fire fight. Then a small number of this game's population have a personality disorder that drives them to forgo the pleasures of real life and become the Annie Oakley's of Aces High. They are usualy the one's calling visual aids gamey even though some have good ones for their personal use. Or the Lion's trying to keep the Lambs easy fodder as the price to be payed for not spending inordinate amounts of time playing the game to become a Lion.

Lions: Caesar it's unfair the Lambs learning to understand the visual aids for their slings and ballistas.
Caesar: Entertains me to no end. Quit whining like puppies.
Lions: But, but, now they have no reason to come close to us anymore.
Caesar: Your love life is of no concern to me. I like the puppy whining better.

Did you know for nose mounted guns the number is 274 or 18 pixels(9Mil). With exception for the MK108 to 400 if you set it's convergence to 350.

So Fugi how much has that gunsight helped your Hit% so far?

[tunnelrat]

Why place anything on your LCD that might permentaly mark the plastic screen of your LCD?

DEDICATION!

[Delirium]

Cheater

I'm sure that peice of gum that Gabreski used was dialed in exactly where the gunsight was, and ripped the gunsight out permanently.   /sarcasm

Using a hand drawn dot on your monitor is FAR more accurate than a 'peice of gum' or a grease pencil like the Vietnam helo pilots used. Combine that with the fact you get such a ridiculous view over the nose and it makes aircraft that have a great view over the nose less useful (like the upcoming Me410).

I'm really surprised how many people are doing it, is it that acceptable in Aces High?

[The Fugitive]

I'm sure that peice of gum that Gabreski used was dialed in exactly where the gunsight was, and ripped the gunsight out permanently.   /sarcasm

Using a hand drawn dot on your monitor is FAR more accurate than a 'peice of gum' or a grease pencil like the Vietnam helo pilots used. Combine that with the fact you get such a ridiculous view over the nose and it makes aircraft that have a great view over the nose less useful (like the upcoming Me410).

I'm really surprised how many people are doing it, is it that acceptable in Aces High?

Anything that can be used to save time and cut back on actually LEARNING how to do these things the right way is now acceptable.

No need to learnACMs, just HO until you need a new plane.
No need to learn to dive bomb, because you have 20+ friends to back you up and SOMEONE is bound to hit it.
No need to learn to level bomb, dive bombing in a Lanc using F3 mod is much easier.
No need to learn how to lead a moving tank if all you every do is shoot them as they spawn in.

It's a sorry state, but it is the way it is.

[bustr]

So if a player observes a repeating pattern in aiming over the years that results in a high hit percentage. Then modifies a gunsight to reflect that, or places an overlay on the monitor or the corner of a sticky note on the LCD screen. Thats gaming the game? Anyone remember the story about hitech and the tank in Air Warrior? Or S/Ldr. R.P. Beamont 's modification to the MkII gunsight in his Typhoon using cellephane tape for rocket shooting?

The only thing an aiming enhancement does for you is to make your shots reproducable more often in the heat of the moment. That ghost line in my gunsight cannot make up for the rapid changes in "G" forces when my con is trying to screw my aim. It just makes me more efficient at harvesting the unwary or slow to react between 200-400. It also improves my sense for where my rounds are going in snap shots. Some of the time my connection quality makes me shoot duds anyway.

But, when the next game version is released with the enhanced target command. I'm really considering a full zoom transparency overlay to determin range to tanks by the size of the tank at distance. Guess I'll have to add an unzoomed elevation grid to augment determining range to a tank on a 1k high ridge line firing on my feild.

.Target (range) (heading) (azmuth)  <-----Hitech may want to disable the target command outside of offline and the TA. You could use this to determin range to a tank by overlaying the sitting tank with the target or ship to ship or shore targets like 8inch batteries.

Each of the 9 rings I beleive are 10 feet wide. At 1000 yards the target is 60Mil in diameter. So I just treat it like another gunsight and calculate Mil for my grid overlay.

I can admit I'm guilty of a game bias but, it's related to golf. I got tarred and feathered by a group of golf finatics once by observing where it came to world class championship matches worth millions to the winner. Everyone entered to play the match should be issued the exact same set of clubs and balls at the door with no special hitech enhancements even if they are "by laws" standardised. Even better, if they are the best of the best, issue them original wood and metal clubs with exactly the same balls. If the game is realy about the skill then the tools won't matter. The best are the best. Or so one would hope.

[The Fugitive]

Your site is a learning tool. Well that's how I used it. For year I always asked "where should my target be in my site to get hits?", and the answers were as wide ranging as the possibilities. I don't "need" your site any more because I know better "where" i'm shooting. The difference is today's players looking for the short cut as the be all and end all.

HOin is the easiest way to get kills, no lead to figure, just some drop and even that is nothing if you are not worried with how close you get before you shoot.

You mention over-lays..... and I hate to mention this, but we all know that the lead for a crossing shot is pretty big, and well outside the site. Why not just make an over lay with a circle/half circle that has the right MILs for a 60-90 degree crossing shot. Of course the circle would be 3-4 times bigger than the "glass" the site is projected on, and will cover some of the up-right in the canopy but hey. If you target is on the line fire away!

It's like in AW when you could "paint" all the goons bright red so it was easier to see them. What the point of playing the game if your not going to play it the way it was meant to be played?

[Melvin]

What the point of playing the game if your not going to play it the way it was meant to be played?

And that is the crux of the problem.


It took Fugitive for freaking ever to get there, but he did it by God.


 

[Delirium]

Everyone entered to play the match should be issued the exact same set of clubs and balls at the door with no special hitech enhancements even if they are "by laws" standardised.

Exactly... why should aircraft that have a massive nose over view be able to have their gunsight magically appear so far above their nose? Luftwaffe aircraft (aside from the 110) don't have the ability to put their heads all the way up, why should Allied aircraft be able to? There is a HUGE difference in having the gunsight far above, your aim is much better and you can much better track the target.

Beamont used cellephane on his gunsight and you can recreate this by altering the gunsight within Aces High. Once you put the dot on the monitor, it changes the playing field entirely imho, not to mention it is gamey as hell. Looking at some of the responses, it looks like it is wide spread and that disturbs me. This is the behavior you find in games like Call of Duty, and Battlefield, I truly thought this community was much better than that.

How does HTC feel about this?

[Butcher]

Exactly... why should aircraft that have a massive nose over view be able to have their gunsight magically appear so far above their nose? Luftwaffe aircraft (aside from the 110) don't have the ability to put their heads all the way up, why should Allied aircraft be able to? There is a HUGE difference in having the gunsight far above, your aim is much better and you can much better track the target.

Beamont used cellephane on his gunsight and you can recreate this by altering the gunsight within Aces High. Once you put the dot on the monitor, it changes the playing field entirely imho, not to mention it is gamey as hell. Looking at some of the responses, it looks like it is wide spread and that disturbs me. This is the behavior you find in games like Call of Duty, and Battlefield, I truly thought this community was much better than that.

How does HTC feel about this?

Delirium,
In my view I don't think 90% of those who do this could land 2 kills. Whether its lack of ACM, skill or aim - people want any advantage they can get, why they choose to play Aces high and not World of Planes I don't know, in WOP you have a third person view of your plane with a crosshair out in front.

This brings me back to Counterstrike in the 90s and early 2000s, people used cheats trying to "get to the top" since they lacked any skill what so ever to do it themselves. However when tournaments required everyone to play on the same exact PC it pretty much showed who was good who wasn't, as for those who needed "enhancements" they simply got blown apart and outed.

I used the "dot" for a month after the cursor got removed, but I realized it didn't matter since I already learned after years - no matter how you "view" the bandit still has to cross your nose for a kill shot, 99% of the time I can't even see my gunsight or bother aiming with it - everything is done on a snapshot, Dots won't help with that.

Skill and ACM take time, some view it as it takes to much time or don't feel like wanting to learn it, in this case they want any advantage to help them, why they still bother playing is beyond me they simply won't get any better.

[bustr]

After 10 years my gunsight is a 100Mil ring and dot with a ghost line below 256x256 at 284 for wing guns and 278 for nose cannons. I get tired of remembering to elevate by 1/6th of the ring for bullet drop compensation. And it gives me a hold steady line to lock in with the con's wing line to hold lead. It's the closest thing I can aproximate to an active K14 in the game.

The Beaumont modification had a second factor in that the gunshight allowed a 5 degree tilt of the reflector plate in the MkIIL. Eventualy the TypeI Mark III projecting a single dot onto the windscreen replaced that. since we don't have the 5 degree tilt I can place a second dot 25Mil below 256x256.

Using the ring for antitank shooting with the 88 is simple enough. To shoot 5k at a tank elevate about 5 rings high. Since I know this from offline testing, whats the big whoopy doo if I use an overlay on my screen? I can just as easy make a clear plastic ruler in Mil. Goto full zoom then measure the width of the tank or its turret at distance and elevate appropriatly.

As for a 100mph ring lead overlay. I calculated the lead at distance to 600 once for hold off with the 100mph ring. So at that point what's wrong with an overlay? An active K14 would do exactly that. Or if Hitech installed an active Stuvi lead comp dive bombing sight in our Ju87 and 88 all we would do is hit the bomb release button when the stadia tick slid down to the proper point on the 200Mil tail from the center point.

You can create all of this offline using the lead comp targeting sights and the offline target. I made a gunsight for the B25H that point and click starting at 4.4k fleying level 1-2k high and all you do is goto full zoom and when the CV fits between the width points fire the 75mm. This was becasue I got the lenth in meters from the internet for our CV and converted that to Mil at distance while testing against the offline target, then a CV.

So you want to lobotomise everyone playing the game for being intelegent and applying simple physics formulas to gunnery problems to create solutions?

Why don't you ask Hitech why he scattered so many excellent tools around the game for solving problems like this. Or hadn't you noticed them all these years?

Hitech is updateing one of the best: .target (range) (bearing) (azmuth)

You going to try and limit how players use this new tool to solve for gunnery issues and improve their ability to shoot you accuratly in your shiny metal kester?