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Re: Italian Aircraft
« Reply #1 on: June 11, 2012, 06:23:17 PM »
yes,we need, the sm-82. combat used by luftwaffe as well as italian airforce....was a bomber and a transport for paratroopers.....and would grant wishes for axis transport,italian aircraft,and axis bomber all in one aircraft.               the g-55 fiat and re-2005 would be great fighters...but you know how it is. people would say things like...they wernt made in enough numbers, no impact on the war etc etc...of course this is because THEY dont want them.  these same argument can be said for the wirblewind,octwind,ta-152,p-47m,me 163 and brewster(in game model)  and yet we have those in game.......awww  maybe they are afraid of new non us aircraft?  maybe. im not sure

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Re: Italian Aircraft
« Reply #2 on: June 11, 2012, 06:46:58 PM »
We will not get the SM.82 as a troop transport because it would be very much more effective than the C-47A being faster, armed and tougher.  We might get the Ju52 as a transport as it gives the choice to be extremely slow and armed or to be slow an unarmed.

The SM.82 might be added as a bomber.  A better bomber choice would be the Savoia-Marchetti SM.79-II or Cant Z.1007.
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Re: Italian Aircraft
« Reply #3 on: June 11, 2012, 07:03:35 PM »
we NEED the Fiat G.55, the Piaggo P.108 and the Cant z. 1007 before anything else is added.
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Re: Italian Aircraft
« Reply #4 on: June 11, 2012, 07:28:09 PM »
we NEED the Fiat G.55, the Piaggo P.108 and the Cant z. 1007 before anything else is added.
We don't need the P.108.  Only 24 were built.

The two most representative Italian aircraft that could be added would be the C.200 and the SM.79-II.
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Re: Italian Aircraft
« Reply #5 on: June 11, 2012, 07:31:27 PM »
I still want the Re.2005.
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Re: Italian Aircraft
« Reply #6 on: June 11, 2012, 07:46:17 PM »
We don't need the P.108.  Only 24 were built.

The two most representative Italian aircraft that could be added would be the C.200 and the SM.79-II.

as far as fighter goes i really recommend the Fiat G.55 Centauro. everytime a early war plane gets added its only flown the first week its out then rots in the virtual hanger.

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Re: Italian Aircraft
« Reply #7 on: June 11, 2012, 09:34:10 PM »
as far as fighter goes i really recommend the Fiat G.55 Centauro. everytime a early war plane gets added its only flown the first week its out then rots in the virtual hanger.


Understandable.  Note that I didn't say "We don't need the G.55."  :p
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Re: Italian Aircraft
« Reply #8 on: June 11, 2012, 09:35:54 PM »
+1 for the C200 and the SM79

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Re: Italian Aircraft
« Reply #9 on: June 11, 2012, 10:14:43 PM »
Is there any *note* any chance of the Re.2005 being added?


Honestly the most beautiful aircraft of the war, and would even be competetive in the LWMA.
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Re: Italian Aircraft
« Reply #10 on: June 11, 2012, 10:16:14 PM »
Is there any *note* any chance of the Re.2005 being added?
I'd say yes, there is a chance, though the G.55 is probably more likely.
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Re: Italian Aircraft
« Reply #11 on: June 11, 2012, 10:20:35 PM »
Screw more likely, the G.55 can rot.


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Re: Italian Aircraft
« Reply #12 on: June 12, 2012, 12:21:51 AM »
I'd say yes, there is a chance, though the G.55 is probably more likely.

G.55 certainly can be added to Aces high, it served in squadron strength and racked up over 100 kills, primary flown in northern Italy. After being reviewed by the German Luftwaffe they declared it better then the 109g6 in all aspects, why it was never produced by the germans is a wonder.

Re.2005 to my knowledge never flew in squadron strength, I believe only one wing actually flew it in combat, with only 45 produced (far less then that given there were a few prototypes) I would say it most likely filled the gaps for squadrons that got hacked apart late in the war.

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Re: Italian Aircraft
« Reply #13 on: June 12, 2012, 12:24:17 AM »
Well depends on if it had to see service in all one squadron. A squadron's worth saw combat, IIRC, but not all in the same time.


Also HTC stated before that the only real requirement is that it flew in WWII, and that it saw combat.
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Re: Italian Aircraft
« Reply #14 on: June 12, 2012, 12:31:31 AM »
Well depends on if it had to see service in all one squadron. A squadron's worth saw combat, IIRC, but not all in the same time.


Also HTC stated before that the only real requirement is that it flew in WWII, and that it saw combat.

It never seen squadron service, it might of filled one wing, only problem is finding out what squadron actually flew re.2005s if any did, so far I cannot find any photos or evidence of which squad flew it. Wikipedia shows some 40 such built, where this number comes from is beyond me.

What I think is likely, is the factories might of produced 4x - they might of been bombed and never used in combat, which is the case for the japanese in many ways.
Germans did not want to license and build the G.55 or Re.2005, so this leaves the Italian factories which were already being hammered by Allied bombers.

Edited:

Here's some comments across the net:
Hello John
a nice picture, thanks for that.
But IMHO the combat use of 2005 after Sept 43 is just a myth, not the only one floating in the net. IIRC there was only one LW unit using 2005, that was a target unit operating in Northern Italy, we know that 3 of its 2005s were damaged during USAAF bombing raid against its airfield.

Juha

Secondly:
Well several sources say that the ANR 2005s were used for training only. for a series 5, its not a glorious end

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