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Re: Prometheus
« Reply #30 on: October 27, 2012, 04:32:29 AM »
I had high hopes for the film but was very disappointed when I watched it. Much of it completely defied logic or just plain didn't make sense and I think the whole thing was a lot more 'eye candy-centred' than sensible content. I also become dismayed at the whole re-imaging concept. Go and make some new concepts up if you start to run out of ideas. You're getting paid enough  :old: 


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Re: Prometheus
« Reply #31 on: October 27, 2012, 08:25:05 AM »
Prometheus "honest trailer":

SPOILER

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« Reply #32 on: October 27, 2012, 09:49:56 AM »
 :rofl
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Re: Prometheus
« Reply #33 on: October 27, 2012, 10:22:21 AM »
Awesome  :rofl  :rofl
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Re: Prometheus
« Reply #34 on: October 27, 2012, 01:13:54 PM »
I heard mixed reactions, so waited until i got the Blu-ray. One thing you MUST do if you are doing a sequel/prequel. Get the freaking detail right, do it with an obsession, or back off and leave it well alone. Some points that were bad -

Alien queen relief on wall even though it hadn't evolved to that stage yet.
characters that are cowards, then suddenly brave ( and vice versa) get the characters right for crying out loud.
You can't omit the engineers sudden change in attitude to humans with zero explanation, there has to be a hint somewhere.

This film felt like the glue holding it together was missing, so much potential and so wide of the mark

Oh and if you advertise an alternative beginning and ending on the box,make sure there IS one and not some bs marginal re-edit and add some cgi engineers. Very disappointed and a missed chance for a classic.

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Re: Prometheus
« Reply #35 on: October 27, 2012, 02:08:14 PM »
LOL you are funny, this not right, thats not right.
I enjoyed the movie, great atmosphere, finaly a great Sci-fi after a long time nothing out there.
I think i saw it 10 times allready, ofcourse in 3D!
I hope to see more, the search for the creators. Could be very interesting.

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Re: Prometheus
« Reply #36 on: October 27, 2012, 02:21:18 PM »
Different people have different expectations. I love Sci-fi, but for some reason especially with Sci-fi it has to make some kind of sense.
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Re: Prometheus
« Reply #37 on: October 27, 2012, 02:47:14 PM »
Different people have different expectations. I love Sci-fi, but for some reason especially with Sci-fi it has to make some kind of sense.

Agreed. The knife edge balance between the futuristic stuff and the present day world, as we know it, makes or breaks a movie. I'm a movie buff and sci-fi geek sure, but if my wife (who isn't a geek at least) can spot obvious errors then the ball has been dropped.

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« Reply #38 on: October 27, 2012, 06:04:59 PM »
I heard mixed reactions, so waited until i got the Blu-ray. One thing you MUST do if you are doing a sequel/prequel. Get the freaking detail right, do it with an obsession, or back off and leave it well alone. Some points that were bad -

Alien queen relief on wall even though it hadn't evolved to that stage yet.
characters that are cowards, then suddenly brave ( and vice versa) get the characters right for crying out loud.
You can't omit the engineers sudden change in attitude to humans with zero explanation, there has to be a hint somewhere.

This film felt like the glue holding it together was missing, so much potential and so wide of the mark

Oh and if you advertise an alternative beginning and ending on the box,make sure there IS one and not some bs marginal re-edit and add some cgi engineers. Very disappointed and a missed chance for a classic.

Your own assumptions are the source of most of the "bad". Why do you assume the alien from the fist film has evolved from this one? Both ships were thousands of years old when the humans encountered them, so the "alien" in the first film could be an older, outdated, bio-weapon; and just like you can find pictures of B-17s in an USAF office somewhere, they decorated their wall...

Cowards become heroes and vice versa all the time in both real life and other movies.

What sudden change in attitude to humans? When did thousands of years become sudden? The reason might be revealed in the next film... However, why must everything be explained? I like a movie I can chew on. If you watch the DVD/Bluray with the directors commentary, you'll realize that even Scott himself don't know if the planet where the Engineer sacrifices himself in the opening scene is Earth or not. It is deliberately left as a mystery.
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« Reply #39 on: October 27, 2012, 06:27:03 PM »
^agree

I liked it, so much Ive watched it a few times now :aok
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Re: Prometheus
« Reply #40 on: October 27, 2012, 06:44:19 PM »
the best character in this movie is a robot, that's how bad the movie is.
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Re: Prometheus
« Reply #41 on: October 28, 2012, 05:51:42 AM »
the best character in this movie is a robot, that's how bad the movie is.

Like in Brade Runna?  It's that way on purpose.  Vickers was also a replicant.

A great film does not spell out every detail of it's plot just to placate the simpletons who need that sort of thing.
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« Reply #42 on: October 28, 2012, 10:51:33 AM »
Vickers was also a replicant.

Was she? ;)
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Re: Prometheus
« Reply #43 on: October 28, 2012, 02:02:25 PM »
Your own assumptions are the source of most of the "bad". Why do you assume the alien from the fist film has evolved from this one? Both ships were thousands of years old when the humans encountered them, so the "alien" in the first film could be an older, outdated, bio-weapon; and just like you can find pictures of B-17s in an USAF office somewhere, they decorated their wall...

Cowards become heroes and vice versa all the time in both real life and other movies.

What sudden change in attitude to humans? When did thousands of years become sudden? The reason might be revealed in the next film... However, why must everything be explained? I like a movie I can chew on. If you watch the DVD/Bluray with the directors commentary, you'll realize that even Scott himself don't know if the planet where the Engineer sacrifices himself in the opening scene is Earth or not. It is deliberately left as a mystery.

ok, i'll bite this time. If you are implying the xenomorph from the original film is an earlier incarnation, then why didnt the engineers simply locate the crashed ship using the beacon the Nostromo located, and finish the job?

someone who runs from a 2000 year old headless corpse then suddenly finds a wormlike creature that is crawling through slime and thinks its adorable?? yeah right, totally believable.

wether the change in attitude from the engineers was sudden or gradual, no explanation or hint is given. To me at least, its just bad storytelling.

Its not an unwatchable film by any means, i'm sure I will watch it a few more times. It would have worked better as a standalone film, change the ship and xenomorph stuff, remove wayland etc and start a new film series

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« Reply #44 on: October 28, 2012, 02:12:29 PM »
someone who runs from a 2000 year old headless corpse then suddenly finds a wormlike creature that is crawling through slime and thinks its adorable?? yeah right, totally believable.

agreed a dreadful scene, the worst of the sloppy script decisions. vickers (definitely a droid) getting crushed was cheap too. and guy pierce? cmon, if you need an old guy, hire an old actor ... otherwise it looks like a young guy in old guy makeup.

plenty of problems with the script and acting, almost no characterisation apart from david ... but overall none of it was enough to stop me enjoying the look, feel and scale of the ideas, and the unanswered questions.
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