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Offline Flench

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Looking for Cap ,Ford Rager problems
« on: June 20, 2012, 09:53:02 AM »
My 94 ranger has lost its brakes . I have to pump them to stop . What is that ? need new booster ? I just put new pads on front and a new brake caliber on the front right , it was froze up . HELPPPP ...
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Re: Looking for Cap ,Ford Rager problems
« Reply #1 on: June 20, 2012, 10:00:08 AM »
Quote from: Flench on June 20, 2012, 09:53:02 AM
My 94 ranger has lost its brakes . I have to pump them to stop . What is that ? need new booster ? I just put new pads on front and a new brake caliber on the front right , it was froze up . HELPPPP ...

Did you bleed the brakes after installing the caliper? If not, air in the line will cause a spongy feel and can also cause you to need to pump them. Air compresses, fluid does not.
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Re: Looking for Cap ,Ford Rager problems
« Reply #2 on: June 20, 2012, 10:06:07 AM »
I did my best by myself . I ran a line into a cup of fluid and pumped them that way . Did fine for around 300 miles and just started the spongy feel .
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Re: Looking for Cap ,Ford Rager problems
« Reply #3 on: June 20, 2012, 10:07:54 AM »
Dirty brake fluid will do it, too.

Have a friend help bleed.  Much more effecient.
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Re: Looking for Cap ,Ford Rager problems
« Reply #4 on: June 20, 2012, 10:09:58 AM »
If you very recently did something and that's the system that isn't working I wouldn't throw parts at it yet.  (I wish my airplane manufacturer understood this concept... :bhead)

Do a thorough bleed of the whole brake system first and go from there.  Check that the pads were installed correctly and showing wear where they're supposed to and go from there.
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Re: Looking for Cap ,Ford Rager problems
« Reply #5 on: June 20, 2012, 10:12:40 AM »
Quote from: Flench on June 20, 2012, 10:06:07 AM
I did my best by myself . I ran a line into a cup of fluid and pumped them that way . Did fine for around 300 miles and just started the spongy feel .

OK.... if it was fine after you changed the caliper then went away after some miles I would say master cylinder or booster. Turn off all fans radio and such inside. Press on brakes. Does the engine idle up or do you hear a hiss.
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Re: Looking for Cap ,Ford Rager problems
« Reply #6 on: June 20, 2012, 10:22:57 AM »
Quote from: Shuffler on June 20, 2012, 10:12:40 AM
OK.... if it was fine after you changed the caliper then went away after some miles I would say master cylinder or booster. Turn off all fans radio and such inside. Press on brakes. Does the engine idle up or do you hear a hiss.
No hiss Shuffler , all ready checked for that . Got to be air then ?? engine is norm.
Von , I ran alot of fluid through it when i bled it .
Golfer , I put the pads on so I no there right .
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Re: Looking for Cap ,Ford Rager problems
« Reply #7 on: June 20, 2012, 10:34:11 AM »
If no hiss then it will most likely be the master cylinder.
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Re: Looking for Cap ,Ford Rager problems
« Reply #8 on: June 20, 2012, 10:38:38 AM »
Quote from: Shuffler on June 20, 2012, 10:34:11 AM
If no hiss then it will most likely be the master cylinder.
Rgr , I was scared of that . Can they be rebuilt or should I just buy a new one ?
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Re: Looking for Cap ,Ford Rager problems
« Reply #9 on: June 20, 2012, 10:47:20 AM »
Quote from: Flench on June 20, 2012, 10:38:38 AM
Rgr , I was scared of that . Can they be rebuilt or should I just buy a new one ?

They can be rebuilt but I prefer new.
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Re: Looking for Cap ,Ford Rager problems
« Reply #10 on: June 20, 2012, 11:06:10 AM »
Quote from: Shuffler on June 20, 2012, 10:47:20 AM
They can be rebuilt but I prefer new.
Thanks guy's <S>
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Re: Looking for Cap ,Ford Rager problems
« Reply #11 on: June 20, 2012, 03:30:26 PM »
had a booster go in my 90 gmc z71 and the pedal was so hard it took both feet to get it to stop, sounds like a bad master.
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Re: Looking for Cap ,Ford Rager problems
« Reply #12 on: June 20, 2012, 03:32:42 PM »
Quote from: homersipes on June 20, 2012, 03:30:26 PM
had a booster go in my 90 gmc z71 and the pedal was so hard it took both feet to get it to stop, sounds like a bad master.

Yup.

When the booster goes it can cause the pedal to go almost to the floor also. In which case folks will pump to get every bit out of the brakes.


... oh and you're most welcome Flench!
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Re: Looking for Cap ,Ford Rager problems
« Reply #13 on: June 21, 2012, 06:32:30 AM »
Thanks again Shuffler , I hope you going to be around today I mite have another question . Fixing to jump on it now . I am going to go a head and buy a new caliber for the other side where they both be new then do a brake bleed and if that dont work I will go back to town and get the booster or I mite just buy it while Im at it and if I do not need it I will carry it back . Just depends on if there is a core charge or not . <S>
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Re: Looking for Cap ,Ford Rager problems
« Reply #14 on: June 21, 2012, 08:25:19 AM »
When the caliper was replaced, the entire master cylinder drained.

The master cylinder needs bleeding.

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