Great looking plane..

[Captain Virgil Hilts]

LOL......I already know how this will end but I figured you would quietly backpedal.

Gets popcorn.

Back pedal?

You made the claim. You provided no source, and no name for the opposing pilot.

The only one backpedaling here is you. You refuse to provide a source for your claim.

[icepac]

Source: Kum-Sok No  (the korean pilot who defected with his mig) from his book.




http://books.google.com/books?id=3xPQb28PJ3MC&pg=PA161&lpg=PA161&dq=yeager+mig&source=bl&ots=FntFlBevWF&sig=ySMn8cm8UwNsvXj2HX_bt6fONkE&hl=en&sa=X&ei=5fHpT-6rA4XO9QTEsdDqBA&ved=0CGAQ6AEwCDgK#v=onepage&q=yeager%20mig&f=false

I'm pretty sure Virgil would only accept the account if Yeager's opponent were Hartmann or Galland.

I wonder what Virgil would say if I claimed my dad killed a mig in air to air combat?

Would he claim the mig pilot was a scrub?...........that it didn't happen?.....etc?

[Captain Virgil Hilts]

Source: Kum-Sok No  (the korean pilot who defected with his mig) from his book.

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http://books.google.com/books?id=3xPQb28PJ3MC&pg=PA161&lpg=PA161&dq=yeager+mig&source=bl&ots=FntFlBevWF&sig=ySMn8cm8UwNsvXj2HX_bt6fONkE&hl=en&sa=X&ei=5fHpT-6rA4XO9QTEsdDqBA&ved=0CGAQ6AEwCDgK#v=onepage&q=yeager%20mig&f=false

I'm pretty sure Virgil would only accept the account if Yeager's opponent were Hartmann or Galland.

I wonder what Virgil would say if I claimed my dad killed a mig in air to air combat?

Would he claim the mig pilot was a scrub?...........that it didn't happen?.....etc?

Pretty much confirms what I said. Even Yeager says "the pilot with the most experience is going to going to whip your ***", when explaining how he beat his opponent in both planes. See page 163 of your preview.

In other words, thanks for proving my point. It was a matter of Yeager having more experience, nothing more, nothing less, even according to Yeager.

As to any other claim you might make, I'd take it with a salt block, as opposed to a grain of salt. It only took 1/2 dozen tries to get you to quote your "source", and there is still no actual record of the name of the opposing pilot.

As to Yeager, I'm ambivalent, but don't let that confuse you in your assumptions.

[icepac]

Yeager beat the mig with the Sabre, switched places, and beat the Sabre with the mig.

I implied it's the pilot in this post......that you disagreed with but now agree with.

Brilliant.

LOL at your block of salt.......my dad does have a guns kill of a mig.

[Babalonian]

My bud Chris Fahey flies that Sabre as well... Chris is the guy with his arm and head in the engine inlet below....

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They had an excellent demonstration this year at March ARB and the Chino Planes of Fame.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUM6qJnNsWY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GO1t4Q-yxq4

Nothing screams "chewing up air while pissin' gas" better than that Sabre during low passes.  The bit he did with the Mig-15 was really great (2nd video).

[Captain Virgil Hilts]

I implied it's the pilot in this post......that you disagreed with but now agree with.

Brilliant.

LOL at your block of salt.......my dad does have a guns kill of a mig.

You did not imply anything.

Congratulations to your dad, he's obviously a better and smarter man than you.

[icepac]

Yeager beat the mig with the Sabre, switched places, and beat the Sabre with the mig.

Pretty simple to glean from this post quoted....unless you missed it in your zeal to skewer.

[GScholz]

You did not imply anything.

Congratulations to your dad, he's obviously a better and smarter man than you.

What a nice guy 

[tunnelrat]

I don't think the P-38 made it to Korea. The 51 and 47 did.

The P-38 was retired in 1949 (as far as the United States goes, that is)

[Widewing]

[GScholz]

Beautiful picture.

[Widewing]

Beautiful picture.

It is, isn't it? It's a Gus MCrea photo.

More photos from Chris Fahey (alternately flies the Sabre and the MiG for the Planes of Fame Museum).




Chris on the left...

[W7LPNRICK]

Back in 1978-79 I got to watch the KAF fly these daily at Kunsan Korea. beautiful plane. The KAF painted them OD green.

[AceHavok]

I don't think the P-38 made it to Korea. The 51 and 47 did.

I know the Corsair made it in Korea, did the SB2C Helldiver make it too?

[morfiend]

 Wide,
 
    Some beautiful pix! I noticed in 1 of the pix something I've never recalled seeing before. On the Vstab it looks like there are a couple of tabs,are these the trim tabs?

   Like I said I've never noticed these before and I'm currious to their function.