30-06

[fbEagle]

Just bought a brand new 30-06 remington model 770. was out shooting and couldnt get a group. Put it in a vice and still couldnt get a group. Im thinking it has to be the scope, im still using the one that came with it and it was only $300. I was wondering if anyone else has been having an issue with this particular gun? We were drawn for bear permits for this fall and i certainly want to know that i can rely on the gun when Yogi decides i look tastier than a picnic basket lol

[rogwar]

Just bought a brand new 30-06 remington model 770. was out shooting and couldnt get a group. Put it in a vice and still couldnt get a group. Im thinking it has to be the scope, im still using the one that came with it and it was only $300. I was wondering if anyone else has been having an issue with this particular gun? We were drawn for bear permits for this fall and i certainly want to know that i can rely on the gun when Yogi decides i look tastier than a picnic basket lol

Unfortunately the 770 is variable in terms of quality. That scope it came with could very likely be drifting but the rifle is notorious for having issues. Go ask on any gun or hunting site.

[gyrene81]

ya the rem 770, ruger xs7/xl7 and savage axis are not good economy rifles. if you were going to buy an economy rifle you would have been better off with a mossberg 100atr or stevens 200.

[Rich52]

When you say "cant get a group" exactly what do you mean? What happens on your 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 5'th shots?

Tell us what kind of ammo are you using? What kind of scope? And mounts? But we really need to know exactly whats going on group-wise.

OK, I did some searching since Im not familiar with the model. Most of my scopes are Leo Varix-lll's but I do have one Varix-ll and consider that a starting point. Generally if the bad groups are repeatable its the rifle. If there is no rhyme or reason to the grouping its the glass or mounts. Most of all when different loads are used. I'd NEVER take a cheap Bushnell scope out Bear hunting. I'd never take one out deer hunting cause I dont believe in cheap glass. The thing is Ive seen this rifle for sale for $284, and Bro, anytime a rifle/scope combo goes for $284, especially from Remington, they are cutting corners. And with this one the "corner" is the glass. I'd have to see the targets to tell you for sure tho.

Crip a 400 lb Black Bear and as your going into the wood after it then tell me the cheap rifle/glass was worth it. Im sorry to lay it out like that but there it is.

[rogwar]

savage axis

A lot of folks around here have had good luck with the Savage Axis with decent glass. It's a clunky, ugly rifle but they are supposed to do well from what I've read on the Texas Hunting Forum and The High Road.

[gyrene81]

A lot of folks around here have had good luck with the Savage Axis with decent glass. It's a clunky, ugly rifle but they are supposed to do well from what I've read on the Texas Hunting Forum and The High Road.

short range ~200 yards not much of a problem but out to 300-400 yards, they are inconsistent. not fond of the workmanship on them either.

[Tank-Ace]

Need more info to be sure, but if there isn't any pattern at all, like it puts one round on center target, the next is on the top right corner, the third is lower right, fourth is an inch above canter, and hitting far left, then we can narrow it down to a couple things.

1) you can't shoot for hell

2) its the scope/mounting

3) you've accuired Franken-rifle, and the makers just cobbled together an assortment of Ill-fitting parts, stuck the trigger assembly from a Mossberg shotgun in there for good measure, and packaged it up as a 770.

[ToeTag]

I am assuming you know how to sight a rifle.  But just incase.......

1- bag your rifle or put it in a bench rest.

2- remove bolt

3- sight the target through your barrel......looking throught the barrel at the target.

4- then look through your scope to see where it is sighted in at.

5- adjust scope with out moving your rifle to were it is centered on bulls eye.

6- shoot and adjust your scope from there.

[rogwar]

short range ~200 yards not much of a problem but out to 300-400 yards, they are inconsistent. not fond of the workmanship on them either.

No doubt about that.

[fbEagle]

 I can assure you I know  how to sight in a rifle lol.  I'm also s decent shot.I'm using remington core  lock 180 gr. Shells. There is  no reason behind the patern. Its just plain all over.

[Masherbrum]

I was looking at the 770 about eleven years ago when I was looking for my first deer rifle.   I was in good with the Owner of the Gun Shop I bought it from.   He talked me into the Sigarms SHR-970 in 30-06.   Consistent groups and a smooth action comparable to a Weatherby stood out as bonuses.

Edit:  I hunt with the exact ammo.   It makes me wonder if they skipped over bore-sighting it for you.

[ToeTag]

I switched mid day to rem cor loc after running outta my hand loads.  they were shooting high and left...about a foot from my hand loads.  three shots of hand loads all touching in center.....three remi's touching high left.  The only difference was my loads were 168 grain and the remi's were 165 grain. I can understand high from the factory ammo but to the left about eight inches?  Made me scratch my head.

[Flench]

Just bought a brand new 30-06 remington model 770. was out shooting and couldnt get a group. Put it in a vice and still couldnt get a group. Im thinking it has to be the scope, im still using the one that came with it and it was only $300. I was wondering if anyone else has been having an issue with this particular gun? We were drawn for bear permits for this fall and i certainly want to know that i can rely on the gun when Yogi decides i look tastier than a picnic basket lol

Trade it in and get a Browning . It wil run you a few more hundred but You will never go back . It sound's to me to be scope . If you have to shot iron sights untill you an buy a good scope .

[homersipes]

i have a 300 win mag shooting 180 gr sierra spt boattails loaded with 70 gr IMR 4831, I get like 4 inch groups at 100 yards but out at 600 I can get the same groups.  I dont shoot from a bench I lay down and use the sling to steady, that way I see what "I" am shooting and not the gun.  I dont worry too much what my groups are like at 100 because at 600 they are way tight.   I never could figure out why this is though.

[Flench]

i have a 300 win mag shooting 180 gr sierra spt boattails loaded with 70 gr IMR 4831, I get like 4 inch groups at 100 yards but out at 600 I can get the same groups.  I dont shoot from a bench I lay down and use the sling to steady, that way I see what "I" am shooting and not the gun.  I dont worry too much what my groups are like at 100 because at 600 they are way tight.  I never could figure out why this is though.

I ues to have a 300 winchester but got tired of my arm being back and blue so I traded it for the Browning 270 I have now . I shot the rem 742 for years in a 30-06 and the only thing I did not like about it was if you did not clean it after ever hunt it will jam and all Rem are the same know to jam . I have 4 of them now and there all alike . JAM