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Re: Climate change?
« Reply #345 on: July 17, 2012, 08:50:05 AM »
But is climate change bad? who knows? all we hear is speculation. What about the Medieval warming period?
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Re: Climate change?
« Reply #346 on: July 17, 2012, 08:51:54 AM »
incorrect. you are not allowed to operate your blender above medium for 1 week.  :neener:

I was operating the blender then too :D
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Re: Climate change?
« Reply #347 on: July 17, 2012, 08:54:36 AM »
I don't understand why the moon could leave its current orbit.  sure there always minute fluctuations in its orbit but I think newton was a pretty smart guy.

The Moon has been moving farther away from the Earth, every year since it parked itself around the planet.  About 1 inch a year.  It is an interesting topic in the orbital mechanics discussions.  I think many people forget the Moon is also being tugged at by the Sun, Venus, and Jupiter, as well as Earth.  The interaction between those bodies is complex and will vary, depending on alignments.  However, the gravitational force between the Sun and the Moon is, approximately (will vary with the Moon's orbital location relative to Earth and the Sun) over twice as large as that of the gravitational force between the Earth and Moon.

During the Moon's near apogee and while in New Moon, and Venus happens to be between Earth and the Sun, the gravitational pull on the Moon, away from Earth, is at its peak.  In this position, the Moon also happens to be going the opposite direction of Earth's solar orbit direction exposing the Moon to the Sun/Venus gravitational forces for longer periods of time.  This slows the Moon's approach to near perigee.  All indications show this particular interaction to be the cause of the Moon's drift away from Earth.

In my spare time (so little of that lately) I had been working on a computer model of this.  There are any number of possibilities, at this point in time.  Departure of the Moon from Earth's orbit is probable.  While I am not an expert on this topic, I find it fascinating and spend a bit of time keeping up on it.

Not to put down Newton, but he would probably struggle in a quality high school physics or trigonometry class today.
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Re: Climate change?
« Reply #348 on: July 17, 2012, 08:58:56 AM »
The Moon has been moving farther away from the Earth, every year since it parked itself around the planet.  About 1 inch a year.  It is an interesting topic in the orbital mechanics discussions.  I think many people forget the Moon is also being tugged at by the Sun, Venus, and Jupiter, as well as Earth.  The interaction between those bodies is complex and will vary, depending on alignments.  However, the gravitational force between the Sun and the Moon is, approximately (will vary with the Moon's orbital location relative to Earth and the Sun) over twice as large as that of the gravitational force between the Earth and Moon.

During the Moon's near apogee and while in New Moon, and Venus happens to be between Earth and the Sun, the gravitational pull on the Moon, away from Earth, is at its peak.  In this position, the Moon also happens to be going the opposite direction of Earth's solar orbit direction exposing the Moon to the Sun/Venus gravitational forces for longer periods of time.  This slows the Moon's approach to near perigee.  All indications show this particular interaction to be the cause of the Moon's drift away from Earth.

In my spare time (so little of that lately) I had been working on a computer model of this.  There are any number of possibilities, at this point in time.  Departure of the Moon from Earth's orbit is probable.  While I am not an expert on this topic, I find it fascinating and spend a bit of time keeping up on it.

The earth will then probably spin out of control.
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Re: Climate change?
« Reply #349 on: July 17, 2012, 09:00:17 AM »
The earth will then probably spin out of control.

That is the theory, at the moment.  It is logical, but the models have not yielded a consistent answer, yet.
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Re: Climate change?
« Reply #350 on: July 17, 2012, 09:08:28 AM »
Well, you learn something new every day. I had never heard of this.

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Re: Climate change?
« Reply #351 on: July 17, 2012, 09:30:19 AM »
where's the moon going! :cry

last time I saw it , it was heading west on I-20 hanging out a cars window
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Re: Climate change?
« Reply #352 on: July 17, 2012, 09:39:25 AM »
But is climate change bad? who knows? all we hear is speculation. What about the Medieval warming period?

 it is in fact not.
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Re: Climate change?
« Reply #353 on: July 17, 2012, 09:42:45 AM »
Well, you learn something new every day. I had never heard of this.

Life and the Universe is relentlessly fascinating.

The Brewster fascinates me in regards to its prowess :old:
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Re: Climate change?
« Reply #354 on: July 17, 2012, 10:05:53 AM »
Well, you learn something new every day. I had never heard of this.

Life and the Universe is relentlessly fascinating.

I agree.... Ever changing and our knowledge expanding.
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Re: Climate change?
« Reply #355 on: July 17, 2012, 08:02:59 PM »
Punting topics like global warming is against the rules and besides, the debate is over.

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Re: Climate change?
« Reply #356 on: July 17, 2012, 08:49:58 PM »
Hmmm.....is POSTING in a necro-thread the thing, or merely referencing it?
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Re: Climate change?
« Reply #357 on: July 17, 2012, 10:40:21 PM »
The Moon has been moving farther away from the Earth, every year since it parked itself around the planet.  About 1 inch a year.  It is an interesting topic in the orbital mechanics discussions.  I think many people forget the Moon is also being tugged at by the Sun, Venus, and Jupiter, as well as Earth.  The interaction between those bodies is complex and will vary, depending on alignments.  However, the gravitational force between the Sun and the Moon is, approximately (will vary with the Moon's orbital location relative to Earth and the Sun) over twice as large as that of the gravitational force between the Earth and Moon.

During the Moon's near apogee and while in New Moon, and Venus happens to be between Earth and the Sun, the gravitational pull on the Moon, away from Earth, is at its peak.  In this position, the Moon also happens to be going the opposite direction of Earth's solar orbit direction exposing the Moon to the Sun/Venus gravitational forces for longer periods of time.  This slows the Moon's approach to near perigee.  All indications show this particular interaction to be the cause of the Moon's drift away from Earth.

In my spare time (so little of that lately) I had been working on a computer model of this.  There are any number of possibilities, at this point in time.  Departure of the Moon from Earth's orbit is probable.  While I am not an expert on this topic, I find it fascinating and spend a bit of time keeping up on it.

Not to put down Newton, but he would probably struggle in a quality high school physics or trigonometry class today.

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Re: Climate change?
« Reply #358 on: July 18, 2012, 05:50:22 AM »
I have not noticed the Moon moving away :old:

I looked at it for a good 10 minutes at it was not doing any moving :old:

I will keep the AH community informed of any developments if they occur :)
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Re: Climate change?
« Reply #359 on: July 18, 2012, 12:34:50 PM »
The citizens of Niburu will save us all in December anyways...
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