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Re: Climate change?
« Reply #150 on: July 12, 2012, 11:09:43 AM »
I agree with RT then again i dont.

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Re: Climate change?
« Reply #151 on: July 12, 2012, 11:12:38 AM »
I dont really understand the rest but the bolded bit is why discussing this is almost pointless. this is not a black and white, one side of the fence or the other deal. theres a bunch of issues around this and dividing the world into 2 camps is simplistic and pointless.

When it comes to climate change I'd be very surprised if I didnt agree with everyone in this thread. and disagree with everyone in this thread ...

Sooooo, how's that bipolar disorder coming along? :D

Actually, I agree the topic is not something that can be discussed in a simplistic manner.  To top it all off, no climatologists have successfully created a climate model which takes into account every variable impacting climate on Earth.  They are still discovering things which impact the climate.  Many of these items are not fully understood either, which makes it more difficult, if not impossible, to do a full climate model.
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Re: Climate change?
« Reply #152 on: July 12, 2012, 11:29:32 AM »
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Re: Climate change?
« Reply #153 on: July 12, 2012, 11:36:58 AM »
What is the Sun to do with climate?
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Re: Climate change?
« Reply #154 on: July 12, 2012, 11:41:36 AM »
What is the Sun to do with climate?
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Re: Climate change?
« Reply #155 on: July 12, 2012, 11:44:49 AM »
 :rofl

fantastic :salute
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Re: Climate change?
« Reply #156 on: July 12, 2012, 11:48:50 AM »
What is the Sun to do with climate?

 it changes it. that and our orbit, and the wobble on the axis all conspire to change the climate. if one would really truly look and be unbiased, one would notice specific patterns. but one doesn't make money doing such
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Re: Climate change?
« Reply #157 on: July 12, 2012, 11:53:07 AM »
How can the sun affect us its too far way!
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Re: Climate change?
« Reply #158 on: July 12, 2012, 11:55:26 AM »
How can the sun affect us its too far way!

It's like a mother-in-law.  No matter how far she is, she still can make a mess of things when she gets riled up.
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Re: Climate change?
« Reply #159 on: July 12, 2012, 11:59:28 AM »
It's like a mother-in-law.  No matter how far she is, she still can make a mess of things when she gets riled up.

Mines 1700 miles away and causes havoc every other weekend, this weekend is "where's my grand baby, get to work"

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Re: Climate change?
« Reply #160 on: July 12, 2012, 12:01:10 PM »
I see :)
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Re: Climate change?
« Reply #161 on: July 12, 2012, 12:02:59 PM »
Mines 1700 miles away and causes havoc every other weekend, this weekend is "where's my grand baby, get to work"



Cowfarst=methane, methane =green house gas.  Green house gas= more solar heat trapped in earth atmosphere, solar heat(rays radiation whatever ya wanna call em)= sun effecting us.


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Re: Climate change?
« Reply #162 on: July 12, 2012, 12:05:12 PM »
I dont really understand the rest but the bolded bit is why discussing this is almost pointless. this is not a black and white, one side of the fence or the other deal. theres a bunch of issues around this and dividing the world into 2 camps is simplistic and pointless.

When it comes to climate change I'd be very surprised if I didnt agree with everyone in this thread. and disagree with everyone in this thread ...

Like I said walk then.... cut your electric lines.... only cook on small fire in the back yard..... lol
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Re: Climate change?
« Reply #163 on: July 12, 2012, 12:07:49 PM »
Actually, I agree the topic is not something that can be discussed in a simplistic manner.  To top it all off, no climatologists have successfully created a climate model which takes into account every variable impacting climate on Earth.  They are still discovering things which impact the climate.  Many of these items are not fully understood either, which makes it more difficult, if not impossible, to do a full climate model.

that can be said of any model of the real world, its impossible to perfectly model anything. apart from the practical problems, without getting too physicsy, there is ultimately a problem with information. models just try to give predictions, some are better than others and they all evolve.

new discoveries which dont fit the model are like christmas presents for scientists because they get to refine their model and make even better predictions. climate models are evolving rapidly and the more sophisticated they get, the more they seem to be pointing in the same direction. not in a "we're 100% sure we've nailed it!" way, more of a "looks like we're getting a handle on this stuff and we should probably be worried about it given the catastrophic consequences" way.
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Re: Climate change?
« Reply #164 on: July 12, 2012, 12:12:08 PM »
Another X class flare today:major solar flare alert.
 http://www.solarham.net/

 http://www.swpc.noaa.gov/
This one hits right on our heads:NOAA radio blackout indocator map
 http://www.swpc.noaa.gov/drap/Global.png
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