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Offline Widewing

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Re: Rudder Monsters
« Reply #30 on: July 16, 2012, 09:21:52 PM »
The F6F rudder is very effective. I use it a lot as an air brake to force overshoots as well as combined with aileron to generate a snap roll. It is vital for my gunnery as well, can't hit a thing if I lose my rudder. In fact losing a rudder is basically RTB damage for me, whereas I can still fight effectively after losing an elevator or aileron.

At the October 1944 Joint Fighter Conference, the F6F-5 was rated as having the most effective rudder.... I find that to be the case in Aces High as well. Extremely effective, especially so at low speed.
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Re: Rudder Monsters
« Reply #31 on: July 17, 2012, 04:40:21 PM »
The F4U has a good and effective rudder, but the F6Fs is much better. 

Widewing, I've heard that the F8Fs was pretty weak, in comparison, to the F6Fs and F4Us, know of any documented comparisons by pilots who flew both/all ("proof")?...
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Re: Rudder Monsters
« Reply #32 on: July 21, 2012, 05:14:33 PM »
A-20 & any of the bi planes (love crabbing my camel through the sky wondering..plane why you no go where my nose points!?!). :D
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Re: Rudder Monsters
« Reply #33 on: July 21, 2012, 06:33:35 PM »
I have been known on occasion to fly lala's, I would by no means say they have strong rudder authority.

no way...say it aint so........ 





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Re: Rudder Monsters
« Reply #34 on: July 21, 2012, 11:02:41 PM »
The F6F rudder is very effective. I use it a lot as an air brake to force overshoots as well as combined with aileron to generate a snap roll. It is vital for my gunnery as well, can't hit a thing if I lose my rudder. In fact losing a rudder is basically RTB damage for me, whereas I can still fight effectively after losing an elevator or aileron.

all very true...

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Re: Rudder Monsters
« Reply #35 on: July 22, 2012, 12:18:19 AM »
As long as it's still attached to the aircraft, the P38s rudder will always work. Hanging on the prop, in a flat spin, in compression I've had it work in all conditions.

P47 has a pretty crazy rudder. I'm positive you can get that plane to perform and backflip with enough skill.

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Re: Rudder Monsters
« Reply #36 on: July 22, 2012, 12:47:32 PM »
F4U; I'm pretty sure a steering wheel would work in place of pedals.

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Re: Rudder Monsters
« Reply #37 on: July 23, 2012, 09:26:50 PM »
I have been known on occasion to fly lala's, I would by no means say they have strong rudder authority.

You dont fly em enough then, it is one of the few planes that is easy to tailslide the aircraft....which is a direct result of rudder authority.  The ability to slew the nose around at high speeds though is not the same at low speeds.

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Re: Rudder Monsters
« Reply #38 on: July 24, 2012, 06:34:45 AM »
Guys thanks again for the posts.

I'd like to share that I have been flying a Spit 9 lately and find its Rudder amazing too.  I did not expect that.  :O
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Re: Rudder Monsters
« Reply #39 on: May 02, 2013, 04:12:23 PM »
At the October 1944 Joint Fighter Conference, the F6F-5 was rated as having the most effective rudder.... I find that to be the case in Aces High as well. Extremely effective, especially so at low speed.

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Re: Rudder Monsters
« Reply #40 on: May 02, 2013, 05:36:59 PM »
no way...say it aint so........ 





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The Lala is great for catching dweebs who don't want to fight.  :airplane:
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Re: Rudder Monsters
« Reply #41 on: May 02, 2013, 06:07:35 PM »
I have in the past and always will say this:

The F4U's rudder is even MORE important to flying it effectively than the flaps.
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Re: Rudder Monsters
« Reply #42 on: May 02, 2013, 06:10:32 PM »
AMEN!


PS Why'd you change your name?

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Bumping an almost year old thread to say "AMEN!", WTG !  :neener:

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Re: Rudder Monsters
« Reply #43 on: May 02, 2013, 06:37:04 PM »
Since you detected the sublty of the move, I'll just say I had a reason  :angel: ... neener, neener :-)
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Re: Rudder Monsters
« Reply #44 on: May 03, 2013, 12:31:58 AM »
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