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Offline MiloMorai

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Re: 5 Mile long landslide in Alaska
« Reply #15 on: July 13, 2012, 04:30:12 PM »
It is not that change does not happen but the rate at which the change occurs.

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Re: 5 Mile long landslide in Alaska
« Reply #16 on: July 13, 2012, 04:37:19 PM »
It is not that change does not happen but the rate at which the change occurs.

When any change occurs, there is always a pace at which it occurs.  Fast or slow, seems rather irrelevant.  Not sure what context you are addressing, if any.

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Re: 5 Mile long landslide in Alaska
« Reply #17 on: July 13, 2012, 04:55:03 PM »
What is happening has happened before.  It happened before man was around.  Earth goes through periods of adjustment.  The eco system of this planet is constantly changing.  Sometimes the changes require Earth to perform a a hard reset and then it goes back to being all nice and polite again.  One day it will not make it back and everything will be dead.  It is a planetary life cycle.

There is absolutely nothing man can do to stop it.  Can we slow it down?  Very doubtful.  To have an impact you have to have a thorough understanding of everything that makes up the system involved and no one on Earth has attained that, yet.  Without that complete understanding it is just as reasonable to assume anything we do can make it worse than it was before.

It is easy to be an alarmist and rant about how everything is going into the pooper.  However, that really does not fix anything.
You're right, climate change has taken place in the past, but it doesn't happen over the span of 100 years. Only 3 things matter when talking about global warming; The sun, greenhouse gas, and the earths reflectivity. Those are the only 3 things that can alter the earths temperature. When one or more of these factors gets thrown out of balance the temperature on the earth changes. It's not hard to understand.
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Re: 5 Mile long landslide in Alaska
« Reply #18 on: July 13, 2012, 05:10:39 PM »
We have problem with flooding in the UK which is claimed to due to golbal warming.

The problem is not in fact climate but building regulations were change in the UK 20 years ago allowing housing to be built on known flood areas.

In the past these areas flooded but due to no one living there was not highlighted.



 didn't you guys have massive flooding about 6 years or so ago? i seem to recall talking to an online frined on yahell voice who was worried about her daughter due to that.
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Re: 5 Mile long landslide in Alaska
« Reply #19 on: July 13, 2012, 05:15:10 PM »
You're right, climate change has taken place in the past, but it doesn't happen over the span of 100 years...

The Medieval Warm Period lasted from about CE 950 to 1250. It warmed up for about 100 years and then cooled down the last 100. It was followed by the Little Ice Age from about CE 1350 to 1850 with anecdotal evidence of expanding glaciers worldwide. All without human industry of any significance I might add...
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Re: 5 Mile long landslide in Alaska
« Reply #20 on: July 13, 2012, 05:24:40 PM »
Yes I realize it, but it did however create a rather large shockwave.
Largest Solar Flare of scale.
Was just noting that there are a lot of events happening.
We are getting ready for another heat wave to last a week or more
here on East Coast.

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 everything they're calling heatwaves right now, i seem to remember dealing with back when i was a teen. no heat warnings back then.

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/07/08/why-the-u-s-east-coast-heatwave-was-not-unusual-nor-the-number-of-record-temperatures-unprecedented/
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Re: 5 Mile long landslide in Alaska
« Reply #21 on: July 13, 2012, 05:38:25 PM »
The Medieval Warm Period lasted from about CE 950 to 1250. It warmed up for about 100 years and then cooled down the last 100. It was followed by the Little Ice Age from about CE 1350 to 1850 with anecdotal evidence of expanding glaciers worldwide. All without human industry of any significance I might add...
The Medieval Warm Period only effected Europe, and was not a global phenomena.

The little Ice Age was caused by volcanoes.

Try again.
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Re: 5 Mile long landslide in Alaska
« Reply #22 on: July 13, 2012, 06:13:19 PM »
I agree with you, the Earth does continually cycle. I only meant to put these in with
other things going on this year, ie Arizona fires, Mass flooding in Russia,China, Great Britain, elsewhere.
People concerned about 2nd Dustbowl.
Not your typical year.

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Re: 5 Mile long landslide in Alaska
« Reply #23 on: July 13, 2012, 09:31:31 PM »
The Medieval Warm Period only effected Europe, and was not a global phenomena.

The little Ice Age was caused by volcanoes.

Try again.

No one knows for sure if the MWP was global or not (pretty hard to believe that only Europe was affected by a heat wave for 300 years), and what caused the Little Ice Age is of no concern; the fact remains that the climate can change noticeably in the span of a hundred years (or less) from natural causes.
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Re: 5 Mile long landslide in Alaska
« Reply #24 on: July 13, 2012, 09:43:28 PM »
Wonder what effect the Deccan traps or the Siberian traps had on the climate? La Garita would have created a mess. Forest fires before we fought them?
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Re: 5 Mile long landslide in Alaska
« Reply #25 on: July 13, 2012, 11:56:45 PM »
Most temperature records are from 19th or early 20th century. Who caused the warming back then? Cows.
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Re: 5 Mile long landslide in Alaska
« Reply #26 on: July 14, 2012, 07:51:12 AM »
No one knows for sure if the MWP was global or not (pretty hard to believe that only Europe was affected by a heat wave for 300 years), and what caused the Little Ice Age is of no concern; the fact remains that the climate DOES change noticeably in the span of a hundred years (or less) from natural causes.

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Re: 5 Mile long landslide in Alaska
« Reply #27 on: July 14, 2012, 09:17:40 AM »
Massive slide. Thank God it wasn't in a populated region. I saw a report that said the average temperatures on
Earth rose 6 degrees since 2006. This year, at least on East Coast, warmest 1st 6 months on record.
I'll be moving to higher terrain soon.



And here in Anchorage we've had the coldest July on record.

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Re: 5 Mile long landslide in Alaska
« Reply #28 on: July 14, 2012, 09:25:37 AM »
Greenland was once covered in lush forrests: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/07/070705153019

The earth is believed to be in a long period of gradual cooling based on predictable variations in earth's orbit around the sun: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geologic_temperature_record#Recent_past

Recent winters have been unusually cold across the globe... Lots of articles on the web about this, but here is one: http://theextinctionprotocol.wordpress.com/2011/01/21/coldest-winter-in-400-years-seen-across-the-globe/

Some areas / time periods on earth will be warmer than normal also, ex. current US climate, the last few months.

That's how I look it.  Normal variations in climate, arguments both ways.  We'll have another ice age at some point...

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Re: 5 Mile long landslide in Alaska
« Reply #29 on: July 14, 2012, 01:32:45 PM »