5 Mile long landslide in Alaska

[CAP1]

Be careful with the EPA.  I have a good friend that works there and he has said they are always scrambling around looking for ways to justify their budget.

 AND and that is why i didn't even read their page. maybe i will later tonight.

[Skuzzy]

AND and that is why i didn't even read their page. maybe i will later tonight.

I get the feeling from my friend and it is only a feeling, they would not actually lie, but they might take things out of context in order to prove they are a needed entity.  It is rather unfortunate.

[CAP1]

I get the feeling from my friend and it is only a feeling, they would not actually lie, but they might take things out of context in order to prove they are a needed entity.  It is rather unfortunate.

 I'VE thought that for a loooonnngggg time.
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 they have done good things in the past. they had a time and a place. both of those are gone, and unfortunately, so should they be.

[Skilless]

Someone once told me that on their current trajectory, the EPA will make the IRS look like the boy scouts within twenty years.

[CAP1]

Someone once told me that on their current trajectory, the EPA will make the IRS look like the boy scouts within twenty years.

 i think they'll do it inside of 10

[Ripsnort]

There must be some mathematical formula showing the ex potential growth on the number of Chicken Little's developed on a yearly basis for various hickups on our planet.


I know it is somewhere....I tried Google.  BTW read Bodhis' signature.  No truer words spoken.

Science is based on fact......not a show of hands.  Fact: Climate has changed since the earths inception.
Could very well be doing it now, always has.....and always will.  Only thing that has changed is the inhabitants.
The latest inhabitants supposedly the most intelligent.  That....is quickly becoming debatable.

Well stated!

[Skilless]

i think they'll do it inside of 10

Well he said it about ten years ago....

[jimson]

Drought like the world has never seen before....  Record temperatures across the globe for a second straight year... Tornado outbreaks from hell... Must be a natural weather cycle  

The farming techniques that caused the dustbowl didn't cause the drought, so the 1930's still stands at the worst drought in US history.

Nothing new about tornado super outbreaks, except the ones from the past were probably underrated compared to 2011, since we now have better technology and less unoccupied space leading us to be aware of more of them than we used to be.

Record temps I cannot dispute except that on a local level, we haven't even been close to the record high temp of 117 set over 20 years ago, and we tied some record low temps last year.

[Chalenge]

If you study the history of man and I mean the history of perhaps the last 3.5 million years you will notice that man in all his changes has survived all climate changes. We have specialties that allow us to live in the arctic and the saharan regions. Probably we should adapt to building structures to live within the sea but even if we dont we will likely find a way to survive even the loss of a magnetosphere.

[sunfan1121]

Climate change even when natural has a trigger. The earth doesn't wake up one day with a wild hair up it's arse and decide to change the game. The Milankovitch cycles ain't due for another 29,000 years, no super volcanoes, or large tectonic shifts recently. However we are pumping ungodly amounts of greenhouse gas into the atmosphere.

It's not even complex science that everybody tries to make it out. The global climate is easy to model when only three basic factors are involved. Anyone who is a sceptic on man made climate change needs to take a step back and look at what really dictates the earths temperature.

For the record I know perfectly well that we're never getting off fossil fuels. They will be gone someday possibly in my lifetime, and it might be a good idea to advance Americas natural energy potential. If we did come up with a way to provide cheap clean energy it would be a game changer for the whole planet. Imagine how much you're quality of life would go up if you never had to pay a electric bill again. I don't get why anyone would resist the advancement of the human race.

[jimson]

Imagine how much you're quality of life would go up if you never had to pay a electric bill again. I don't get why anyone would resist the advancement of the human race.

It's because there isn't a viable alternative yet and too many people are using the issue to try to facilitate what amounts to a huge tax increase.

I'm all for alternative energy, but not willing to suffer economic ruin for this nation to force us on to something that doesn't yet exist.

[sunfan1121]

It's because there isn't a viable alternative yet and too many people are using the issue to try to facilitate what amounts to a huge tax increase.

I'm all for alternative energy, but not willing to suffer economic ruin for this nation to force us on to something that doesn't yet exist.

What about when we run out of peak oil in 10 years and gas prices triple? How would the economy respond to that?

We will need an alternative source if energy if we want to remain a superpower.

[Donzo]

What about when we run out of peak oil in 10 years and gas prices triple? How would the economy respond to that?

We will need an alternative source if energy if we want to remain a superpower.

Some guy named Carter said the same thing more than 10 years ago.

[CAP1]

What about when we run out of peak oil in 10 years and gas prices triple? How would the economy respond to that?

We will need an alternative source if energy if we want to remain a superpower.

Like many Malthusian beliefs, peak oil theory has been promoted by a motivated group of scientists and laymen who base their conclusions on poor analyses of data and misinterpretations of technical material. But because the news media and prominent figures like James Schlesinger, a former secretary of energy, and the oilman T. Boone Pickens have taken peak oil seriously, the public is understandably alarmed

[RTHolmes]

if you're going to copy'n'paste at least cite the source ...