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Offline Nathan60

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Re: Penn State report
« Reply #15 on: July 17, 2012, 12:04:59 PM »
Why not just burn penn state to the ground?


Burning stuff is  more of a Michigan State past time. Sparty on Little brother, Sparty on.
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Re: Penn State report
« Reply #16 on: July 17, 2012, 12:08:11 PM »
Why not just burn penn state to the ground?

 

It's still a school... or is at this point. Punishment is required to at least try to keep this school from making any more poor judgements that might harm more folks for life.

Turning a blind eye to this problem will only create more of what has happened at this school for years.
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« Reply #17 on: July 17, 2012, 12:11:37 PM »
It's still a school... or is at this point. Punishment is required to at least try to keep this school from making any more poor judgements that might harm more folks for life.

Turning a blind eye to this problem will only create more of what has happened at this school for years.

Yes punishment is required, jail time for individuals involved, not sanctions on the school.
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« Reply #18 on: July 17, 2012, 12:13:48 PM »
Fortunately in their infinite wisdom, the Penn State Board of Trustees voted to keep JoePa's statue because his accomplishments on the field overshadowed anything that happened off the field.

Unless they put a 24 hour guard with a nigh unbribable paycheck I wouldn't give two pennies for that statue living to the end of this year.

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« Reply #19 on: July 17, 2012, 12:16:55 PM »
Unless they put a 24 hour guard with a nigh unbribable paycheck I wouldn't give two pennies for that statue living to the end of this year.

to many people Joepa=Penn St.  so staute makes it until the School removes it.
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« Reply #20 on: July 17, 2012, 12:17:20 PM »
Yes punishment is required, jail time for individuals involved, not sanctions on the school.


That is not how the NCAA has reacted historically. This was a school and football staff problem. It must be dealt with in a timely manner or the NCAA will no longer be the controlling entity. They cannot treat this school or football system any differently than they have others in the past.
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Re: Penn State report
« Reply #21 on: July 17, 2012, 12:25:27 PM »
That is not how the NCAA has reacted historically. This was a school and football staff problem. It must be dealt with in a timely manner or the NCAA will no longer be the controlling entity. They cannot treat this school or football system any differently than they have others in the past.

I do not recall something like this happening before.

If you are referring to SMU and Ohio State, once again vastly different circumstances that cannot even be compared reasonably to this situation.
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« Reply #22 on: July 17, 2012, 12:30:27 PM »
. They cannot treat this school or football system any differently than they have others in the past.

yeah but when is the last time they had this come up? Never, this is a completely unique case, how do they do justice? where should They draw the line?> What is too soft or what is too harsh. This aint some kids trading rings and stolen Game equipment for tattoos, or for  deals on cars,  or for charging to apear a charity. This is  a coach covering up the CRIMES off another coach.
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« Reply #23 on: July 17, 2012, 12:35:05 PM »
In my opinion the NCAA should sanction the football program severely.

Colleges make a tremendous amount of money from athletic programs.  So much so in this case that those in power were willing to turn a blind eye to the sexual abuse of minors, to protect the reputation of their institution.  

They need to made an example of in order to create a genuine disincentive for those in charge of athletic programs.




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Re: Penn State report
« Reply #25 on: July 17, 2012, 12:40:53 PM »
Let the school heal, there's no sense in penalizing the football program or athletics. 

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Re: Penn State report
« Reply #26 on: July 17, 2012, 12:43:06 PM »
Fortunately in their infinite wisdom, the Penn State Board of Trustees voted to keep JoePa's statue because his accomplishments on the field overshadowed anything that happened off the field.


You all might find this interesting, in ancient Greece they at a "Hall of Shame" for disgraced athletes, the 'Zanes'.  Maybe the Paterno statue is something of a modern day equivalent.

"Just outside the entrance to the ancient stadium in Olympia—the site of the first Olympic Games in 776 B.C.—stand a series of crumbling stone bases known as the Zanes. Battered remains of bronze statues (the earliest are thought to date from 388 B.C.), they once stood as an Olympic walk of shame.

If an athlete broke his Olympic oath—common violations included bribery, tardiness, cowardice, lying and fraud—he was fined and forced to purchase a statue of Zeus. The name of the athlete and, in some cases, his father's name plus his Greek city-state were inscribed on the base of the statue, which was then placed along the entranceway to the great stadium. "

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Re: Penn State report
« Reply #27 on: July 17, 2012, 12:44:36 PM »
In my opinion the NCAA should sanction the football program severely.

Colleges make a tremendous amount of money from athletic programs.  So much so in this case that those in power were willing to turn a blind eye to the sexual abuse of minors, to protect the reputation of their institution.  

They need to made an example of in order to create a genuine disincentive for those in charge of athletic programs.



Yeha but why punish the team?  fine  make them hurt financially give them a tv balckout and  ticket sales dontations.
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Re: Penn State report
« Reply #28 on: July 17, 2012, 12:48:16 PM »
http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/8163189/penn-state-cannot-allowed-football-team

Shut down the program.

Man I think ESPN is gettig as bad as the Freep. Tupac why would you agree to shut the school down what are your convictions towards shutting the team down, and the kids that gave have been at Penn Stater for 4-5 years  butsing butt to play ball and  get thier classes done?


Please never link an ESPN story  thye dont do ay fact checking and  throw any garbage out there they want.
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Re: Penn State report
« Reply #29 on: July 17, 2012, 12:56:01 PM »
Yeha but why punish the team?  fine  make them hurt financially give them a tv balckout and  ticket sales dontations.

That might be a reasonable solution.  It has to hurt financially somehow.

Perhaps giving a 3 year window to allow current players to finish, but then end the football program for some period after that so incoming freshmen may consider other programs if they want to play football.