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Offline Slade

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F6F Visibility Request
« on: July 18, 2012, 01:24:17 PM »
Concerning the F6F it has been stated:

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Visibility from the cockpit was excellent for almost 360 degrees. Visibility aft was enhanced by a rearview mirror.

Others respected AH flyers have sat in an actual F6F and claim the rear visibility was better than what is modeled in AH.

Don't get me wrong, I think AH did a great job modelling the F6F but there are ample data points suggesting this one area can be improved.  AH even improved it slightly after the latest F6F update so many months ago.

That all being said: please increase the rear visibility of the F6F.

Thanks,

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« Last Edit: July 18, 2012, 02:03:17 PM by Slade »
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Re: F6F Visibility Request
« Reply #1 on: July 18, 2012, 03:38:54 PM »
You might have better luck requesting the F6F-3.
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Re: F6F Visibility Request
« Reply #2 on: July 18, 2012, 03:51:16 PM »
I'll toss my vote for both better visibility on the F6F-5 and getting the F6F-3.
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Re: F6F Visibility Request
« Reply #3 on: July 18, 2012, 04:31:49 PM »
I sometimes joke about the rear visibility on the Hellcat, but looking at photos of the RL F6F-5 canopy the AH one seems pretty close. It lacks the blown canopy of aircraft like the Spitfire, which let the pilot get his eyes out beyond the rear bulkhead of the cockpit when checking six. Also the Hellcat has a big rear cockpit bulkhead. The rear windows featured on the F6F-3 would help matters, but I think if HTC were going to do that version, they would have done it when the F6F-5 was updated.

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Re: F6F Visibility Request
« Reply #4 on: July 18, 2012, 04:55:09 PM »
They still could add the F6F-3.  Would be almost as easy to add as the P-47M was. 
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Re: F6F Visibility Request
« Reply #5 on: July 18, 2012, 05:25:17 PM »
I honestly doubt a pilot would have a good visibility behind him - so 360 degrees is a little far fetched.

After looking at some photos, actually the Pilot should not be able to view from 5 oclock to 7 clock position -  Even further - Late model F6F's had the Rear Window removed which would obsecure even MORE view from the rear.

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Re: F6F Visibility Request
« Reply #6 on: July 19, 2012, 01:31:42 AM »
They still could add the F6F-3.  Would be almost as easy to add as the P-47M was. 

The P-47M was externally identical to the P-47D-40, so all that was needed on that plane was a new skin and a minor revision to the flight model for the extra power and possibly weight of the uprated engine. Similarly the F6F-3 would need a skin and minor flight model revisions. However it would also require changes to the external 3D model for the differently shaped cowling and the extra windows, as well as revised damage modelling for the reduced armour. Also it would need altered internal cockpit art, again for the rear windows. A lot more work than the P-47M.

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Re: F6F Visibility Request
« Reply #7 on: July 19, 2012, 09:39:09 AM »
Thanks all for the comments about this great plane.  :aok

That being said, this is still just a wish for:  please increase the rear visibility of the F6F.

Who else is in?

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Re: F6F Visibility Request
« Reply #8 on: July 19, 2012, 09:44:56 AM »
Thanks all for the comments about this great plane.  :aok

That being said, this is still just a wish for:  please increase the rear visibility of the F6F.

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The Visability is fine, what more do you need?
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Re: F6F Visibility Request
« Reply #9 on: July 19, 2012, 04:09:12 PM »
Thanks all for the comments about this great plane.  :aok

That being said, this is still just a wish for:  please increase the rear visibility of the F6F.

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They already increased the visibility twice.  You should have seen it when it was first remodeled.  :cry
It is not terrible now, but one more little fix like the last one would be nice.  Just don't count on it.
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Re: F6F Visibility Request
« Reply #10 on: July 19, 2012, 07:36:04 PM »
get trakir you will be able to see your rear with no problems.  even in planes like the f4u you can see just as clear as a spitfire.


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Re: F6F Visibility Request
« Reply #11 on: July 19, 2012, 08:05:09 PM »
get trakir you will be able to see your rear with no problems.  even in planes like the f4u you can see just as clear as a spitfire.


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Try flying one sortie in the F6 and you'll see that the F4U is like IMAX in comparison.

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"The P-47M was externally identical to the P-47D-40, so all that was needed on that plane was a new skin and a minor revision to the flight model for the extra power and possibly weight of the uprated engine. Similarly the F6F-3 would need a skin and minor flight model revisions. However it would also require changes to the external 3D model for the differently shaped cowling and the extra windows, as well as revised damage modelling for the reduced armour. Also it would need altered internal cockpit art, again for the rear windows. A lot more work than the P-47M." - Greebo

But still a hell of a lot less work than a new plane from scratch.
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Re: F6F Visibility Request
« Reply #12 on: July 19, 2012, 10:46:32 PM »
Just take a wingman, he can look into your 5 to 7 o'clock for you.  :aok
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Re: F6F Visibility Request
« Reply #13 on: July 19, 2012, 11:29:21 PM »
Try flying one sortie in the F6 and you'll see that the F4U is like IMAX in comparison.

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"The P-47M was externally identical to the P-47D-40, so all that was needed on that plane was a new skin and a minor revision to the flight model for the extra power and possibly weight of the uprated engine. Similarly the F6F-3 would need a skin and minor flight model revisions. However it would also require changes to the external 3D model for the differently shaped cowling and the extra windows, as well as revised damage modelling for the reduced armour. Also it would need altered internal cockpit art, again for the rear windows. A lot more work than the P-47M." - Greebo

But still a hell of a lot less work than a new plane from scratch.

i have flown the f6f many times.  i have actually flown every fighter/attack airplane and i can see clearly behind me with no problems.  except for those rare birds like the il2.


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Re: F6F Visibility Request
« Reply #14 on: July 20, 2012, 06:28:54 AM »
>> get trakir

Sorry for the dumb question.  Is that a piece of external hardware and\or a mode you put your plane in for visibility?

I am a simple guy.  I use a keyboard and mouse.  Alt-tab all the time between the game (to write code etc.).

BTW, I am not arguing over which plan has better or worse 6 views, flying with wingmen etc.  My context is this: please make a change to the F6 to increase the 6 view.  Thanks.
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